Language and mind

May 23, 2013

No men, women, children, or houses with the pie

William JonesWilliam Jones was a reported hyperpolyglot. He learned Greek, Latin, Persian, Arabic, Hebrew, and basic Chinese, says Wikipedia to add he knew thirteen languages thoroughly, and another twenty-eight reasonably well.

Mr. Jones wrote The Sanscrit Language to tell that Greek and Latin had a common root, Sanskrit. This Proto-Indo-European “language”, PIE in short, was to originate contemporary European tongues.

Altogether, Mr. Jones remains described as having had at least reasonably good knowledge of 41 tongues. Such a reasonably good acquaintance should have encompassed the words woman, man, child, and house. Let us compare these words in Latin, Greek, English, Russian, Polish, German, French, and Sanskrit.

Is there a root PIE vocabulary?

Woman silhouetteWOMAN

Latin: femina; Greek: gyne; English: woman; Russian: zenshchina; Polish: kobieta; German: Weib; French: femme; Sanskrit: nari.

Man silhouetteMAN

Latin: vir; Greek: andros; English: man; Russian: muzshtschina; Polish: mężczyzna; German: Mann; French: homme; Sanskrit: naro.

I do not know Sanskrit at all. I can only compare resources. The morpheme -man, as quoted by supporters of the PIE, seems to refer to thinking, not sex.

Child silhouetteCHILD

Latin: putillus; Greek: pais; English: child; Russian: rebionok; Polish: dziecko; German: Kind; French: enfant; Sanskrit: sutah.

Words for children would have varied in Sanskrit. The culture has been publicized as strictly stratified, in status and ancestry. “Children of men” made another name, napraja. The notion is unlikely to regard speciate sexual differentiation.

House silhouetteHOUSE

Latin: domus; Greek: do; English: house; Russian: dom; Polish: dom; German: Haus; French: maison; Sanskrit: vasati.

Vir or andros, child or rebionok, woman or kobieta ― the words have nothing to do one with another, and they are the basic vocabulary. In all languages, these are the words hardly ever to change. Polish and Russian could make a group. We may compare the words muzshtschina and mężczyzna. There is not much point deriving Polish from Russian or Russian from Polish, however. We can compare rebionok and dziecko.

Domus, do, and dom, or house and Haus, show geographic affinity. It is characteristic of urban or other developments and does not decide on grouping.

Language groups or families

Language groups work better than language families. ‘Families’ derive languages one from another. This might not work, as in the Polish and Russian examples above. Proto-languages are mostly constructs: there is no written evidence for them.

The natural fact will remain that people speak tongues as the languages are, and do not look up to any ‘parent tongues’. With evolutionary approaches, languages do not have to come all from one. They may have emerged independently, owing to human cognitive advancement.

Why derive European vocabularies from Sanskrit, while Sanskrit might have absorbed loan words?

Sanskrit is dated thousands of years B.C. There is no writing in wood, papyrus, parchment or  paper preserved from those times. Stone inscriptions are too short and too scarce to work etymologies. The Rosetta Stone was absolutely unique, yet it allowed translation, not etymological study. Finally, Marco Polo was not probably the first visitor to the Far East.

TrundholmCarbon dating

Written resources should be carbon-dated. There is no philological method to affirm the original beyond evidence. Writings were copied in Antiquity, the Middle Ages and later, hand style and pen craft.

Radiocarbon results happen to be misunderstood. A website shares a story about a find from 9.5 thousands of years ago. It is … a piece of wood from an underwater site. There is much such wood world-round. It does not prove writing. The picture on the left shows an archeological find dated with pollen. Palynology is naturally less likely to work for books.

Oldest does not mean wisest

In Antiquity, people were mostly illiterate, lived without running water, and had many health problems. The lifestyle diseases of the present day are those the Ancients could have never gotten as … they could never live that long. One needs to be very selective, seeking wisdom in those times.

Contemporary supporters of the PIE, professing the Proto-Indo-European ‘family’, have gone into making out religion, too. There is not a PIE root even for the name of our planet.

Earth silhouetteEARTH

Latin: terra or tellus; Greek: Gaia or Aia; English: Earth; Russian: Ziemlia; Polish: Ziemia; German: Erde; French: Terre; Sanskrit: vasudha.

It seems there was a pie more than the PIE, Mr. Jones time, and that pie was India. The colonial era began about 1500, and there was much competition.

Space 1999 would show reading Proto-Sanskrit accurately … ;)

Sanskrit Readout

The holocaust in the clip is not the Holocaust.

March 28, 2013

British grammar nazis

GrammerDisclaimer: the adjacent — and colored meaningfully yellow — graphic piffle is not intended to mean the Union Jack proper. It is the British grammar nazis logo on Facebook.

British grammar nazis header

The logo dubious pulchritude may be seen in its full form on the right here, also with a click.

Now, without going into matters of the meaning of life, or the spoken lore on WWII and British losses — invaluable for those hard of reading — let me focus on the statistics and implications.

I mean, much has been written about WWII. Evidently, mere gathering orthography and other detail does not make one capable of text interpretation. The fact shows in website reactions to The Daily Mash: the guys hardly get irony. Daily mash

British grammar nazis sharesThe article appears full size, when clicked.

The reactions page does the same. Should there be visiting grammar nazis,   I promise a brief primer on irony after this indispensable piece of advice.

The site has about 50 thousand ‘likes’. Taking the British population alone, that would make about 50 thousand functionally illiterate, among about 63 million people. Some might say it is not so bad, it is not even one percent. Still, you’d better ‘think literacy’, going to the UK: the guys wouldn’t have had the UK flag their capriccio, if it were not permitted.

Try for a plain passport photo, that is, without brooches, scarves, ties, anything you do not always carry; the piffle shows the guys’ attention to picture specifics. ;)

Remember to wave your hand, getting a taxi; it is a simple, therefore legible gesture. Try to get a map with statues and other tourist attractions in large icons. It is better to take a walk from the National Museum than end up the Piccadilly, owing to small print. ;)

In hotels, always tick the boxes. At best, you ask for those straight, should you be provided with a form without boxes to tick. ;)

When it comes to mailing letters, get the recorded: they have ID strips. Seeking directions, approach people with newspapers: there are odds they can read them. Never ever leave your books or papers, especially open: they might be taken for other utilities. ;)

Now, the primer on irony. The basics are in the affirmative and the negative. You do not take them for a yes or no merely. Let me quote the Mash:

In no way are any of these people vain, arsey pedants.

You do not take this for a refutation, which Wikipedia explains. The ironic vogue, you interpret the statement. ;)

Naturally, life cannot be about statements only. Let me continue with the Mash.

The way they selflessly dedicate themselves to correct punctuation, for example by pointing out to the staff of a chip shop why the term ‘chip’s’ is a sloppy obfuscation, confirms they are bold and righteous individuals.

The ironic fashion, you apply antonymy, to grasp the gist. The rest may become plain with this kind of close synonymy that would not support a complimentary note.

Laying all that out in detail to a grammar nazi looks discouragingly big a task, hence the handful of thoughts and the primary color, yellow (adjective, reference 3). ;)

In plain words, the grammar nazis evidently do not have the courage to admit that picking on people’s works has no chance to bring in anything creative or sophisticated. They also do not offer own blogs or websites, especially with serious language work, for evaluation.

March 5, 2013

Mignon Fogarty will not let you go on with love – no reason to try to make the French ashamed

Filed under: cognitive progression, language, life, psycholinguistics, psychology — teresapelka @ 11:34 pm

As it must, it shall be disclosed: the Grammar Girl forbids progress with love. ;)

The Grammar Girl is the Mignon Fogarty.


Dirty tips header

It turns out that when it comes to progressive tenses, English is divided into two groups of verbs: dynamic and stative.

The issue at hand is whether verbs like “to love” can be conjugated in a progressive tense, which you use to indicate that something is happening at the moment and is continuing around the time to which you refer, says  Ms. Fogarty.

The French, for example, however you might regard them right next to Casanova in bad fame for superficiality, would never honestly tell you not to say love round the time you feel it. Is the difference American? ;)

Ms. Fogarty continues,

Dynamic verbs relate an action or a process. Common dynamic verbs are “to walk,” “to yell,” and “to read.” These verbs can be conjugated in progressive tenses, so it’s fine to say, “I will be walking all day” and “He was yelling at me”.

Let us look at the verb to quit.

I quitTired of your boss? Five ways to resign in style. 

CNN offers an international coverage on what you can do if your boss walks in, yells, and reads the riot act. ;)

Importantly, most people say, I quit. Hardly anyone cares to say I’m quitting, though walking out the door.

Or, it is hardly ever anyone cares to say, I’m quitting. Let us compare Alfred Hitchcock’s Four O’Clock. :)4 Oclock

The plot does not have heuristics worth recommending. Due to own agencies strictly, you’d be tied up in your cellar with a time bomb of own making.

You could hear your spouse calling your shop and saying …

S/He doesn’t answer.

This is the very matter to go separate from meager jealousy: the wife uses the Present Simple, not Progressive, though holding the phone. Let us first see Ms. Fogarty’s verdict.

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That said, it’s still probably best for ESL teachers to continue to advise their students not to say, “I’m loving it” or to use other potentially incorrect stative verbs in progressive tenses. ESL teachers should point out, though, that students will hear native speakers using stative verbs in progressive tenses when the moment seems right.


Minding my ESL hours, minutes, and secondsStative mapping — whenever the moment seems right ;) — I have to deny. There is something you do not really have in natural languages, and this is enumerated stative verbs. There are stative verb uses. See Feelings.


Let me make a reservation. To varied extents, all grammar books are stories. Their definitions and rules gain efficiency only when people get to know them and work with them. My story does not have rules: it has concepts and ideas. My story does not promise to tell the truth, with an important regard: there is not even one method in the world to work always and for all Grapevine logominds. However, I can say after Mark Twain, whose writings are of reference in my grammar venture: If the story is good for you, it can be your true friend.

I do not agree to tell what is correct or provide rules. I may have a few suggestions for everyone to see if the story could work. :)

We people live ON the planet we have known as Earth. The long and the short, we can think about our jobs, friends, partners, and good habits along with something we could name a map — a map of everyday life, a map of our living, our cognitive map, you name it.

If I cannot put up with my boss, I say, Earth

I quit. I’m walking out the door right now.

If I call someone at a time he or she always is a place, I say,

S/he does not answer, to say it is unusual.

Obviously, natural languages are not made of options. If I say someone is not answering, I am not going to imply it is usual. All along, we stay ON. :)

                         If a kid ever tells me he or she is hating me, I’m not going to correct him or her: good, if it is not forever. :)

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