Knossos Garuda

Knossian Garuda Beach Towel Motif, © Teresa Pelka project

Original picture and the entire book by Evans are available from Heidelberg, at

Evans wrote, the Knossian griffin would be the only one without wings. The picture has been interpreted also as garuda, a “charioteer of the Sun”, by other researchers. To look at it, the Greek figure could run very fast, leap or even jump, but it would not soar. Since the Sun also rises, ancient solar lensing may come to mind, where it is reasonable to think the beam never was to go up or back into outer space, as it could do damage. Compare the movie, ■The Great Pyramid K 2019, about use of solar power in ancient times.

To prepare the Garuda image smooth surface, I printed in Adobe, As Image, 1200 dpi (Advanced Options), having set the Color Space to Working CMYK in Preferences. To smooch it a bit more, I used Corel Color Replacer, background to #dfcfb0.

The picture started showing some lettering that Corel AI styles enhanced, so I decided to enclose phrases as Αθηνάς Ἡλιαῖα, Κνωσιακή Γη, Athenas Eliaia, Knosiake Ge. The lettering would suggest that Garuda knew writing: it is regular left to right, yet in perspective from Garuda’s head.

Rotated, Backgroud DFCFB0

I do not claim the phrases disambiguate what there really was written more than a few thousands years ago, but the archaeological site remains quite open also today, and influence may have been introduced on its walls (Akrotiri looks much changed), so I have the phrases for similar in shape enough and plausible, Athena’s festival for the Sun, Knossian land, ΑΘΗΝΆΣ ἩΛΙΑῖΑ, ΚΝΩΣΙΑΚΉ ΓΗ, in upper case as of the present.
Olden spellings for Athena allowed the simple T, whereas the Greek ἀτενίζω continues to say, look intently, gaze earnestly. Tufts Perseus lays out on the Helios holiday, Ἡλιαῖα. The festival maybe had some show of lights.
Nowadays, computer technology can emulate rotating mirrors. My “man in the mirror” is an unexpected effect while making a patch of random color from / for Garuda head (but still, ©Teresa Pelka), with the rotating mirror effect in Corel. Of course, we may compare a lexical item as vitris for “glasses” or mirrors, plural, and Da Vinci, to speculate he might have added a bit, along with his admitted use of camera obscura. ; )

“Man In The Mirror”, Corel rotating mirror effect
Gradient Exercise
Finished Patches, 25
25 Hard Light

To reconstruct the original Knossian writing might be impossible, as we have been all left to believe in syllabaries, for development of Grecian writing. ■Ogham did not begin as a syllabary, though developed in a geographically delineated context, and most languages on Earth have alphabets for their written beginnings. Speech sounds are simply easier than syllables to note; people always have had names; regular prediction is more likely to fail with a syllabary. Syllabaries look exceptions to have come with cultural and interpersonal influence.

Let us mind, the way people learn alphabets today has been developed for ease of pronunciation. It is easier, again, to say Be or De than a non-vowel sound alone, B, D. Except talk about letters of alphabet, we people do not “syllabize” speech or writing, so syllabaries could be a conjecture, for natural language development.

Knossian krateras show motifs clearly to suggest early Greek alphabetic writing, and the vase patterns could date even to 4000 B.C. The matter having also been wine, it couldn’t have needed the Hindu Valley for pouring: Α, Β, Γ, Δ today …

Evans, Heidelberg copy
Rotated, the patterns are similar to early alphabet
Athens Museum, Wikipedia

Today, the word garuda is derived from Sanskrit, whereas griffin from a speculative Greek shape, γρυπός (grupós for “curved”), where ■Wiktionary says etymology is uncertain. “A Semitic word related to Akkadian karūbu and Hebew kerúv“, is another theory.

Krūbu or kerúv would sound similar to garuda. The Greek verb ἀμαρύσσω (amarusso) continues to say, to sparkle, to twinkle, to glance, ἀμαρυγή (amaruge) to be a Greek participle, at the same link. Had the Greek come from a borrowed name for activity doer, that is, the one who makes the twinkle, the verb stems would have the foreign sequencing. They do not, though Minoans admittedly had contact with Egyptian and Semitic peoples, ■says Britannica.

The influence would have been from Greeks to those other people and not the other way round: “-kru-” or “keru” for “-amarug-” looks possible for an early borrowing by Semitic people. Etymologies as we read them today are not right.

It might be good to note on the Greek form ■ἑλικογραφέω (elikografeo), to tell we could draw a circle in case, whereas γραφέω alone is able to convey we can write, if to wonder on etymology for the word griffin.

Let us picture the ancient world. Ancient Jews were held in Egypt to serve, when ancient Egyptians showed the Sun for an angry god to demand offerings. The figure of a stern and hostile deity was purposed at extorting gifts from scared people. The idea was much different from the original Hellenic thought for a deity to come fight a battle shoulder to shoulder.

Those ancient Jews happened to approach with food or drink, and they were allowed to serve from a direction to face the person — not much trust. They saw writing, but never in the perspective the person who wrote or read did have. Their patterns compare with “upside down Greek”, well… from ancient Egypt. And we are all to know, in ancient Egypt they wrote pictures. Did they for real, to communicate within their societies?

Let us look at the culture. For ancient Egypt, you have gender features emphasized about mourners, but never about the angels or cherubs or other names for sun rays and using them. That was no sex matter even to those folks; besides, I don’t believe in sexual rousal about funerals at all: the morbid gender could have been the feminine Greek pragma.

Statuette of a Female Mourner, ca. 2030-1640 B.C. Egyptian, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York
Egyptian Middle Kingdom Terra Cota, Mourners
Egyptian Isis as angel and angle

To speculate a bit further, ancient Jews developed their idea for covenant, an object or arc capable of destruction, on solar lensing as they managed to learn about it in Egypt. Uzzah was struck dead by this optical instrument, as his inadvertent touch “kindled God’s anger”, to compare the ■Bible study. Possibly, the Garuda never was to soar, as you could end up roast yourself.

The movie here has a few theories. We may like to remember, the Semitic cherubim derives from krūbu or kerúv, where the Greek verb forms amarusso, amaruge do not look borrowed. The Egyptian model for an ark has an embellishment to resemble the Knossian Garuda pretty much, rendered like from a story someone heard, to look at the proto-■chiaroscuro tail; about 15:58 in the movie.

Evans dated his Knossian discovery for some 1900, yet the site sure was seen and narrated on before. To balance probability a bit further, ancient Knossian colors as we see them today may have part come with mineral decomposition. It is possible the Ancients had colors as here, for my happy card.

The Greek κειρύλος (keirulos) would bring up ■Alcyone for arts and entertainment today, the word form is yet very similar to ■cerulean, Latin in origin, for clear blue sky. Greeks continue to have a word shape as κεῖρις (keiris or kiris), to mean a fabulous bird, as Garuda. Was Knossos the matter for tales of a kingdom of skies or heavens? Romans would have assimilated the Greek word into own paradigms for caelum, the sky, hence the {ce} and not a graphemic equivalent for {k} in their spelling. Feel welcome to read about the Latin demeanor.

Ancient Grecian vivid blue likely contained copper and sulfate; the darker, indigo would have contained components from sulfide clay, less susceptible to oxidation, yet not altogether indestructible and thus fallen off in bits. Color-changer and only very generally, the looks might have been like here.

Corrosion is a natural process, certainly known in Antiquity. Only the so-called noble metals and non-corrosives as nowadays most famously steel, do not oxygenate. Copper is considered a noble metal, and still, it may ■corrode.
Rusty red was associated with destruction in Ancient Egypt, the paint for their “voo-doo” (!). The hue never was likely for palace walls wherever the people knew metal — and bronze is an alloy.
To adorn, red has to be a clear and defined color also today. Since rust is one color and it does not give an idea what tint there was before, rooms of Knossos may have known other hues, as yellows or greens. The movie here tells about a dark age of Egypt and the continued desire for control, where those ancients would resort to rusty red magic too (13:36 in the movie).

Omission of color blue from ancient texts would affirm on a big and described secret having been buried. The name of the game was never say blue, and today people as the ■Greek reporter even wonder, could ancients see blue at all?
The report says, Although other colors such as black, red, white, yellow, and green are all ■specifically mentioned in Homer, blue incredibly never makes an appearance.

Greeks certainly have been able to see and tell color blue, as the tinctures of waters and skies (or heavens, ancient times) come from the presence of oxygen; man never could breathe without it, and sure has been able to tell skies or seas from grass.
Perseus shows ■quite a list of names for blue, one of which is ἰοειδής, “like the flower”, a motif in Garuda’s attire and an epithet for the sea in Homer. The name ■chalcanthite derives from Greek words for copper and flower, (k)halkos and anthos. The mineral is reported rare in nature but easily grown; sensitive to water as to require coating, the color is clear sky blue.

44:42 in the movie below, the Egyptian ■Djoser is named the inventor of stone. The visitors described his pyramid: “as if heaven were in it”, whereas the structure is the regular ancient Egyptian idea, piled sandstone and a dark interior. Maybe they associated heaven with stories of another place where stone was made.
The Egyptian type of build always has looked kind of insane to me; pyramids are monuments to feudalism per se, where some people use other people and say it is the law of the land. To imagine anything of utility to the structures, should the pyramids have been patterned after diagrams for hydropower, misinterpreted plans would have likely been originally foreign to Egypt; again, Greece is a possibility, and for conductivity, copper remains high in note.

Source: Wikipedia

I do not know our universe enough to say planet Earth never might have been visited from out there, the cosmos, but extraterrestrials would have had to manage in this physical world as-is. Earthly conditions would have been physically the same, to them and earthlings. This means UFOs with levers, cranes, and hammers, which you do not make of bronze, and the Bronze Age remains the Bronze Age, so even if they’d had some technology to hover huge blocks of stone, they would have also needed immense bags to take all the luggage home.
Hovering tons of stone over the surface of this planet would require real-time calculating possible gravitational sways or disturbances, and you have to be careful about cargo onboard aircraft already. Be warned, it is really a crash. Playback is disabled on other websites. You need to click and go YouTube.

I have never believed in UFO hovering pyramid stone. The movie, ■The Great Pyramid K 2019, persuades me the actual method was, however different from today, gravitationally human, and so much simpler than speculation. Bricks or concrete as such maybe came with merely an accident. A storm, a thunder, a fire, and some rain. Harder stone yet had to be molten.

Primitive Skills: How to make ancient concrete
Basalt and granite artifacts in Egypt

The Knossian Garuda was maybe even the original “charioteer”. Bronze Age Greeks had a happy time, sunshine festivals with shows of lights. The name Athena says, Look! And then Greeks buried it all, also in literature wherever it said blue.

It is possible the invention was Greek, and it got adopted or maybe even stolen by foreign visitors to Eliaia, as from Egypt, who started to present solar physical effects for an oppressive deified figure to cause an eclipse if there were not enough hops for beer. Their lenses were imperfect and gave bursts or flares capable of destruction in the natural environment. Their use of the thought was wrong. Greek thinkers also originated thought about democracy.
The feudalist ancient Egyptians believed that for afterlife, you weighed your heart; and this means it was not the mind. Were they really so obsessed with sex? Whatsoever, I do not believe. Private parts psychologically can weigh on the mind, and primitive thought knew that. Freud was a recurrence to that thought. You couldn’t have Paine, Jefferson, or Lincoln, if to expect of all people to masturbate, answer the “seduction theory”, or take cocaine, and that after the “developmental” stage of “polymorphous perversity”, all life choosing between “drives”, for “libido” or death. Such a mode would prevent anyone from gaining intellectual advancement and prominence. Pharaohs didn’t need intellect. They wanted servants. Freud more or less rendered the madness.
The English name Christopher is derived from Christianity; let us remember the Greek shape κεῖρις. Was the crucifixion of Christ to serve a political example? It was Egypt to make big and small size carvings in stone, for men or women, politicians or priests, to show status. The cross continues to be derived from the Egyptian Ankh, with a potential hint at the ancient Greek catastrophe still: some Minoans were speculated buried under a volcano eruption; some stones in the area yet have been reported to show vitrification that volcanoes do not cause: maybe solar beaming could have had the effect.

The movie is good to show bias on originality, and most demerit to Hebrew comes with the name Miriam, Hebrew for a female. Merriam-Webster was righteously male. Egyptians had their beloved girls for Merit-amun, Miri-amun to have been a sun-beloved boy. The Journal of Near Eastern Studies here might be of use.

The Hebrew ark of covenant would show the 180 angle, in the angel wings: not a nice idea, to think about living and focused sunbeams. Such a focused beam would burn you to ash, and well, there never has been in history any God to come to the rescue of the Jewish, inclusive of World War II. , and Israel is as militarist today as to draft even women, so it is good to observe, if you want to claim covenant with God, make sure it is God. Physics is physics. God made the Sun. It does not mean God made the beam you’d be trying to use.

Moses and Joshua in the Tabernacle, Artist: Tissot, Photographer: John Parnell, Photo © The Jewish Museum, New York

Ancient Egyptians had nothing to do except the time Nile poured, so they made a lot of their picture-carving in stone, but for architecture, how do you imagine a floor plan, with those copious picturesque symbols? Picture writing is simply not economical enough.

Source: Wikipedia.

It is possible Egyptians learned some alphabet from Greece directly, or consciously patterned after resources. And all this was much later than Greek Minoans, who sure did not need to go the Hindu Valley to pour from own vases. Biblical plagues on Egypt can be explained with ecology, as James Cameron would; maybe it was another misuse of physics, whereas knowing nature, you can be on the good side with it.

Ancient items happen to be showed for older than they are. On the good side with physics and chemistry, radiocarbon dating remains the most reliable among tests, as carbon decomposes naturally. For many ancient stones, there is no carbon test possible, as they have little or even no carbon content. Without the carbon, claims on chronology are actually wishful thinking.

It can be viewed as making a wish, ancient Egyptians traveling the world with their art in stone, and so it looks, propagating fragments of Greek to make believe it was religion, though the Egyptians knew that Greeks were people like themselves: how do you get Aristotelian physical “heaps” mistaken for spirituality in some teaching to claim to be Buddhist? I cannot agree “there is nothing more to us than those heaps”; it is a mistake in topic, just as saying people are gods. People are people, feel welcome to my ■Siddhartha’s Rainbow too.

The ancient Egyptian calculation most probably was that godly things come from “out there”, so the shoulder-to-shoulder Greek idea for people and supreme entities alike would be suppressed. They maybe thought, if we spread Greek writings abroad as religion, author works will look just copies, or authors will look unaware of supernatural influence. It is hard to think about a goal with presentation of physics for something supernatural, if Egyptians didn’t mean to enforce own feudalist ways, and they invested a lot in their army and travels to go far as to Australia.

Good theory can be, ancient Greeks buried their sunshine idea, seeing all the use. To try beaming territories or outer space, you might rather move to another corner of the universe, and that with caution about the planetary or star system: there are physically lenses out there, only not of glass, ■say the NASA. The outer space lenses are gravitational.
The Greek philosophical substance was and still can be interpreted for function, way to work or role, in context.
To some, the Grand Canyon may feel like “kissing the face of God”, whereas it possibly was an ancient Egyptian simple fella to nosedive his lens to steep, and as possibly without his even knowing, it got deflected at an angle from out there. Gravitational lenses magnify. There is no record for now, who struck the noses off most Egyptian sculpture; it is known that Alexander the Great raided Egypt. ; )

Grand Canyon, Song on Kissing the Face of God
Nature did not do it, Great Pyramid K 2019, the movie

For the Grand Canyon rock shapes below, a deflected, magnified beam could do (picture from the video embed above; I wouldn’t have anything against some federal control over lenses as big as the Pyramid movie shows).

Picture from the video embed above.
Lens speculated shape and size, the Pyramid movie.

Those ancient Egyptians didn’t predict their own time would end against Rome, as military in investing as themselves — here I need to warn you, it is speculation: were ancient Romans the first people to have had a water turbine? The most propagated phrase about Aristotle remains the Latin Aristoteles omnia turbat. Originally Greek spiral motifs, Knossian actually, have place on Egyptian tomb ceilings, those for ever afterlife, 9:29 in the movie here; and the word “generator” somehow occurs to Joann Fletcher. : )

It is unlikely that a palace, like the Knossos site was, would borrow a motif from a foreign tomb. Probability is, it was the tomb to have a motif come from a palace, especially if the palace was rumored a place of skies or heavens, in other words, very nice blue color on the inside.

More, at some ancient sites, walls don’t have the smoldering you see about Medieval torch lighting: was it fluorescent minerals at night, or some form of electricity they had in Greece and around? The ■Baghdad battery would have emerged some 150 BC.
From ■Stanford classical arts you can hear about the ■Antikythera to know leap: if the progress hadn’t been stopped, ancient Greeks would have gone into outer space some 300 years later, they say. Today humans can be reasonable about lenses too.
Like you learn about gunpowder at school — it was primary school in my case — you don’t get the recipe, but you get to know such a thing exists, that it could be harmful, and you get to know the reasons for not trying it big. With gravitational lensing, a small change in the deflection angle, like a minute slip, could result in strong physical rebounding. After all, ancient people knew about lenses and lived with the knowledge. I never have tried to make gunpowder.

Some say, Must be the air force, but light possibly is not the only physical spectrum that gravitation fields can rebound. Below, were a space agency listening to audio? About alien theories, linear evolution looks interesting. You don’t think little green things. You can think people like yourself… And Earth too, of course.

For afterlife thought, there is a good book, by the way, ■Taylor. I’ve been working on translating it to Polish. To praise sunshine, I attach a little sport in footnotes, to compare modern science and ancient paradigmatic thinking as viewed by Taylor. Could there be a “manual to Earth”? Ancient Greeks were good-humored, and well, not without a little sport. The liquid drop model for an atomic nucleus would fit in with paradigms as discussed thousands of years ago in Greece, Chapter 5 in Taylor. : )

One Antony Flew even developed a theory for Aristotelian Deism. The primary cause to remain the primary cause, the physical world is works you can use to tell on the nature of the cause — this is the Aristotelian thought to give intellect room in nature.
Such literature overall can be very good for intellectual as well as spiritual horizons, provided that well rendered. I have translated The Age of Reason, and now work on Taylor time and again, as it is intellectually enticing to me. Probably it was so to ■one Emily Dickinson too. : )

If Earth really might have come with a manual and extraterrestrials could be watching what earthlings do about it, I do not know. Extant Aristotle mentions “viewing the original”, certainly not about a picture. One thing is sure, physics is not God, and Earth could be a nice playground, to allow all the swinging and hover plus reading, writing, and other arts, before your soul grows and joins another dimension (Plato per se).

Aristoteles could be interpreted as one to aim at perfection, but also as having fulfillment for the way; Akrotiri could be read as aim in field.

Extraterrestrials have used their manual better? See the movie.

Ancient Greeks were a bit superstitious too: they would seek affirmation for knowledge in omens, and those maybe were starlings, to affirm on the Garuda form: the flocking does not make a soaring bird. : )

Human life on Earth has not changed since ancient times with many regards, to include gravitation. Thomas Paine might be yet misunderstood, to be taken for someone who says, there are other people in the Solar System. His theory was more like, when people go live somewhere else than Earth.
The time clause becomes comprehensible if to put together his phrasing from chapter 11, could man gain knowledge of that agency, to which man has given the name of attraction, gravitation, and repulsion, we might then say that another canonical book of the word of God had been discovered.
My theory is, space travel looked such madness, possibly to the printer, that the premise got struck out: (…) But it is not to us, the inhabitants of this globe, only, that the benefits arising from a plurality of worlds are limited. The inhabitants of each of the worlds of which our system is composed, enjoy the same opportunities of knowledge as we do. They behold the revolutionary motions of our earth, as we behold theirs. All the planets revolve in sight of each other; and, therefore, the same universal school of science presents itself to all, (chapter XV).
Thomas Paine was not prone to confabulate; having knowledge of extraterrestrial contact, he would have described the circumstance or not written about the matter at all, so I translate the passage in chapter XV into shapes as for a time clause. His time, other planets were visible in sandy yellow, reds, and browns, similar to uninhabited lands on Earth as from a balloon, which he invokes a few times.

Antiquity and Now, what was — was; what is — is, and what will be — will be. The towel is, of course, in colors to befit a towel, and Garuda is my beach motif, to stay with sunshine. Something you could bring to Eliaia today.

Time to time, I’ve been writing a story too, Verdigris, True Green is my title, about a dead soldier at bay in an afterlife haven, accompanied by Chatty, and afterlife human. My idea for the front page is: The following is a consciously written story to gather on myth, literature, and thought, for good living after. There cannot be any guarantee that all is fictitious, just as there is no guarantee anything is true. How much of the prediction or paradigm as in Taylor or Aristotle himself might hold — maybe even nobody knows. It is up to the reader to consider, what he or she thinks is probable. The following is just a draft, so it may not be all the ideas below to make it to the final form.

I am not a “contactee” or “contacted”, never had any out-of-the-body experience, etc. I almost died when I was a kid (feel welcome to my post on immune nutrition), I lost consciousness for some intervals of time, but never was anywhere “out there”. About religion, I am a non-believer. If I die and see that there is good God, sure I will be persuaded. But here on Earth there is not any proof, or really need for the certainty, because before you try to tell if God is, you should consider if God would be there for you. Would you assume God would like a jinn from a bottle? ; )

Thomas Paine wrote before Darwin or Miller-Urey. More, God could even be a She: would you abandon this world if it turned out to have been created by a female? Or, let us say the female entity would be as powerful and intelligent as God’s wife? Would it be bad to your belief, if God were in a good, lasting relationship, where the male and female are partners? : )

Earthly certainty has been in use to seek power, also to instigate wars, whereas faith is not certainty; it is belief or actually hope. The side of religious certainty is not always that for goodness, as there are criminal records to name believers as well. I don’t know if there’s been a comparison: is it non-believers or believers to figure more? To sum up: the following really is just story ideas. Nobody knows what there is, if there is, after earthly life. And stories need to be different from the regular. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be stories.

Free thought and ideas could be good. Death to be like departure for a foreign land (because nobody really knows it, nobody ever actually was in afterlife and returned to tell about it, resurrection from brain death has never happened and is not probable to happen), we might like a few ideas on how it could be over there. The more flexible we are in a new environment, the better for us. To compare, if we wanted to join a painting workshop and held firmly to a belief that true light is only green, our chances would be much lower than with cognizance to allow for an entire palette.

Nobody knows what they are going to believe after they die: you need to see for yourself, to know for real. Importantly, story ideas do not require worship or faith; they are not religion or report. It could be worth the time, to consider “what there may have been around” as theory on human faith, on which the following is just rough notes.

In my story, a soldier who died owing to botched fuselage in a war zone goes to the bay of the After, cradle they call it there. All souls go to the bay, after death, also by pure accidental thunder.

He’s greeted by an entity named Chatty (there was Aristo-teles). Chatty explains afterlife (based on Taylor and the remaining Greek about Aristotle). Chatty says there are other people in the cosmos, who have a grudge against earthlings. It is not as bad as in the Prometheus here, says Chatty, because he sides with the other humans, and they are better capable (about 1:14 in the movie ). Chatty is not a human from Earth.

Why verdigris: it’s the bronze bluey green, and they play a money game in afterlife for a pastime. There are two kinds of otherworldly existences to Earth: afterlife and physical life in other places in the cosmos, in the story.

Imagine you walk a village or town there are plenty of created, vivid, interesting things to see. Looking at the earthly thing wouldn’t win against our pastimes, says Chatty. Our God said, think about me as a regular fella. Eclectic beliefs maybe once deserved a shrug of shoulder, but Earth is not his experiment, so as long as souls grow and arrive, we can chat and welcome them. The haven here and Heaven proper are visa-free. The other people want to kind of shut down Earth or take it over, and the soldier may choose to return and give Earth a warning, but after you’ve known the forever living, the body only gives you pain, says Chatty. He never tried himself, he heard so.

Chatty: Some people around here, as we like to think about ourselves as people still, thought about the Bible, what words on Earth you’d use to describe regular fellas doing this or doing that, as earthlings tell about God. They compared a few dictionaries and said it was not complimentary, if to use words in context. Thomas Paine is a widely known author, much of a traveler in the After, and happens to show up in Chatty’s cradle. I was sure a man would be hanged that did such a thing, Paine wrote, and people around here agreed the Bible was probably not a good book, or the copy was much inferior, individual study only, if you like. Earthlings obviously wouldn’t have anything like they tell in the Bible for regular.

What our cradle here looks like from outside? Well, in earthly terms, can you imagine anything like Constellation Veil? Not a nebula, not a galaxy, only like a very big constellation with fancy, colorful routes and ways. But that’s what it looks from the outside. Inside, there’re worlds entire, like constellations themselves, again, with color and well, imagine electromagnetic fields. This here is not exactly electromagnetics, but human brains make electromagnetic fields on Earth, internal to the body, and souls feel good with our pragma shape here. The real cradle is hugely bigger than the Solar System. You know of course, you shouldn’t have much extrinsic electromagnetics on Earth, chromosomes aberrate and such. It’s in afterlife you’re fine with something like this. You move about and make things be.

Einstein noticed, the cosmos gives the impression sometimes, like a spirituality manifests, but I cannot tell now who would have made that Hand of God that earthlings can see. It’s anyway just a show, not the real thing. These are the physical world still.

Source: NASA, Veil Nebula, Supernova remnant
Source: NASA

We call it a cradle as it can give a bound, rounded pragma shape. You can create anything with it, even a planet. It’s only not partible matter like Earth, but unless you insist you have to sit and watch a tree growing, you’re happy with this pragma like with nothing else. For a soul, it’s best to be in a cradle, so most try to get somewhere.

There are other cradles. Everywhere, they know the story of the apple. I have been told to answer with a question. In earthly religion, you are told you die and go to Heaven and this is the place for Paradise. So, was Adam dead, when he stole the apple? Do you believe he was a soul, to come to Earth? Do you believe you could steal from someone who knows everything? Earthlings say God is omniscient, and this more or less is right. God only wouldn’t impose. You couldn’t steal from God omniscient, because God would know it, and omnipotent, God would have prevented whatever wouldn’t be of like.

To tell you more about our reality and pragma, it is helpful to try to understand it paradigmatically. Like there would be a dimension you can associate with earthly nouns, then another that would somehow be similar to verbs, and so on. Dimensionally, earthlings would live mostly as in that noun type of matter, length, depth, or width to be kind of morphology. We do not have prescriptive grammar in the After, of course.

The pragma to be more like verbs allows quantum position leaps, to talk earthly terms. It can be dangerous also to grown-up earthlings. You could have plenty of gold for example, industry producing it, but then, to think Earth and economy, gold would be “dirt cheap”, and you’d have to think about something else for a precious denominator. Many people around here, afterlife, like actually silver, for its qualities with arts. It’s not only in Heaven people try things, though the matter over there — we use the word “matter” as to mean a question or thought, and the pragma to show it sometimes too — happens to be very interesting. You can try almost anything around here in the After, and the matter holds, so to speak.

All myth tells you that you perish, if you’re bad on Earth. Well, you do not exist around here, if no cradle lets you in. The room is altogether immense, so if there’s no cradle for you, you go where pragma is unshaped. There, you know you could have light, and you could create it for yourself, but you only saw it done, you don’t know how, so you live dim, in near nothingness and impermanence. Unshaped pragma is not dry, and it is not wet. It does not have a smell, it gives little to touch. Time and again you cannot resist and you try to make something, but it all falls apart. Sisyphus at least had a shape to roll, but this is just a mild sense of humor; there’s never been Sisyphus in afterlife as well as on Earth, and people never stole light. Those have been just intuitions on unshaped pragma. Form can make space, but shape may fill it.

On the other hand, who knows, maybe even World War II Nazis would have considered their act better, had they known about the Unshaped. If immortality is impossible, so is mortality. Think.

Earthlings have had intuitions about the Unshaped: It was all fog, but a fog such as I’ve never seen before or since. For a moment I thought my sight had gone, that, perhaps, in the afterlife everything was vague and misty, that’s Gerald Heard of 1944, The Great Fog: And Other Weird Tales.

In the Cats they say, mind you, he predicted climate change. The Unshaped is where the infinitude can take you, whether you’ve been good or bad.

“I saw that piece of literature on Earth. Some guys said it was against the sequence of tenses, to say I’ve never seen before or after.”

It’s absolutely a natural and proper nodus of time. The sequence of tenses is a theory, and it happens to fail.

“Is reincarnation a theory?”

No, you never re-incarnate. Souls are born, on Earth and other planets. This is how souls come to be. There’s no previous existence, no “before”. The After comes after physical existence, and if you want to, you could incarnate into biomatter on a select created planet (not Earth; Earth is kind of rough in comparison), but nobody’s been willing, because life is real good after. Biomatter is limited, if you know soul. Gods have been successful, but they are Gods.

On Earth, you may have those beliefs, but nowadays mostly because a security agency never inspected a perimeter sometimes. The agency may feel they want to impart, like where some bodily remains are or what happened, but they wouldn’t admit how they got to spot it, so you have those stories of re-incarnated fellas who want to tell. Earth is a physical habitat. In all extent. Today on Earth, you could take “re-incarnation” as telling, “someone else came on the shift and looked through the data”.

There should be some other way, probably, to talk about those findings. Oh, and there are mistranslations of Aristotle. Earth is not a relay. It’s not like souls would pre-exist and want to come on Earth. And that passage in Aristotle’s Physics was about extracting salt from sea water. Then, you have a condiment and a sip of fresh.

Gods are not cruel, neither Him nor Her. They wouldn’t have you unconsciously dwelling in multiple bodies, in other words, looking dumb. This is probably the word you’d use on Earth to talk about someone as incognizant throughout their lifespan, as to be unaware of own person.

Salt extraction has made the difference between life or death, not only on high seas. Greeks were quite some sailors, if you look at the high mast, one for high waters, at the captain’s booth. Ships mostly have been wrecked with their masts broken, unless you had them like these; foldable, flexible, you name it. These are not cracks in the wall. High seas or waters are known as oceans, on Earth as today too.

Partial vacuum was probably the way to extract salt and have fresh water; bring a sack. The Simple English Aristotle here tells about “sifting a physical order” out of a body of water. For muscle, blood, and brain, there’s no extraction to single out “white and hygienic”,  λευκὸν καὶ ὑγιεινὸν, but salt is not an animate order, you can observe from the remaining text. Could go without saying, Aristotle is not grateful for all that’s been done to his writings. 

No, you can’t set up a cradle for yourself in the After. Not even ancient Greeks would have devised such methods; these are God power, and people here hardly would dwell by the country or verdict. Greeks have been quite social, especially them. They never thought to isolate in the After. Gods never made a cradle for Nazis or other sorts.

To get out of the unshaped pragma? It takes someone skilled enough to make you a path. It’s almost like in those love stories where the husband goes to hell to get his wife out, but you can learn those paths only here, in our best of cradles, so the odds are so to speak never high. The watermark is present in all cradles. On the other hand, we do not impose designation. If you want to, you can go to unshaped pragma straight away. The route’s end means you need a path. Otherwise, it’s forever in all directions, from over there.

This is what properly is an impossibility, I’d say. Never happened. No one as skilled ever went the Unshaped to save such characters. There’s nowhere you could go with them. Sometimes you imagine, something could be possible, because there are steps someone could take. The truth is, no one does, so it is an impossibility. No one can be forced to go the Unshaped, if their pragma is good to stay in a cradle.

“What if an infinitude gets them there?”

To call for termination does not mean you’re automatically or however routinely granted it. If you don’t call, you just stay there. All people say it is suffering. If you call, one of us comes and hears you. If you’re not one of those characters there’s nowhere to go with, we may get you out; after all, we’re going back ourselves home. But here, your pragma gets examined just as any pragma. The same. It is not even as intrusive as a GP medical.

Some people say it’s “like with a swoosh”, about an out of the body experience. This here is why. Once a soul comes to exist, it locks in an atomos, the particle I told you that does not part in itself. Earthly physical atoms go to pieces, so they are not the true pragma atomos. The sense for the word is impartible, so whatever does not meet the definition is not the thing. Freud was quite some attempt to divide it psychologically, as maybe earthlings had rumor there was no physically way. His theories worked mostly on insane people, others ended up as his reliable sources of income; and psychoanalysis would probably read different, if to have a copy of Thomas Paine’s Rights of Man at hand.

“Admitting facts to be true, they show the necessity of the French Revolution, as much as any one thing Burke could have asserted?”

And Thomas Paine admired La Fayette, also for his having left a country that was as an enclave for sensual pleasure, to go fight in America.

“A man who has been the indisputable favorite of his mother, keeps for life the feeling of a conqueror”: why mother and conquest, I never understood; it’s basic syntax, so Freud sure had it too; and altogether, conquest is not courtship.

And it wouldn’t be you’re saying so only because your mother is German; that’s some 42 million people on Earth today.

Freud probably projected forms of government on individual people; his metaphysics has prejudice of an ancient oracle; the conqueror is the second form of government in Thomas Paine, and well, Freud maybe only didn’t know how to make a community of one man, or, for an organized sense, an assembly under Vienne. Hearsay is, one of his cousins was under psychoanalysis and developed schizophrenia, but overall, basic syntax it is; maybe those were his views about the story of Christos under the Roman empire. His “lenses of the mind” were finally recognized the error they were.

Étienne Charles de Loménie de Brienne evidently was bishop of Condom before he went to Sens, but brain structuring is no Montesquieu idea. We have never seen the pyramids, either; the brain is not stonemasonry, religion, politics, or anything except basically biology. Orti say it may have been earthling lack of feedback with the After, the projections on organs. Freud’s insistence on masturbation…

God’s generosity does not require you use it. It is pure generosity. Would be a pity, for good democratic thought as in the French Declaration, to be lost for associations as Bureaux de Pusy, or Nancy as in prison slang. Looks some aristocratic or royalist correlative.

Some modern earthling psychology keeps up belief in declarative and procedural memory structures, exactly the opposite to another legislation for making procedures as in Article V. The matter shows in the grammatical article, when you compare Article IV and Amendment XIV Citizenship clause, so we think earthlings have all necessary cognizance, actually, and we anyway can’t just bring the box.

“Wouldn’t you do the metaphysics, give people intuitions and such?”

We? Never. If to put words this way, the act of creation was inclusive of a good, working brain. This is what the DNA blueprint allows, if all goes well. We don’t go against human potential and outcome. We don’t talk “on people’s heads”. It’s the box or nothing.

This has been an earthling illusion, to seek pieces from Antiquity and try telling you could connect with God. If this is not agreed with us, you cannot connect with us.

“And the Westermarck effect?”

There is nothing magic about age six; can be age 5, 10, 15 as well, to say something was or was not, before or after; all you need is lifespan. Good there is someone to think about ethics on Earth, as Moreno on Mind Wars.

It was later noted, only some kids would have had that “childhood amnesia”. We don’t induce amnesia. Honestly, must be, earthlings did it, the same as the “fiery and jealous god” of Deuteronomy, where they might have added a piece of advice by Orti, who by the way, never pretended God, always admitted they were from another planet. Gods don’t envy anything; they have everything, they create. If they wanted to be biological human beings, they would have continued to live as such on a planet.

“You don’t experiment on brains?”

The brain is just a locus, with the soul; without the soul, it is just a dead organ. We can look everything up in our libraries, we don’t need experiments. Evolution has been part the act of creation, or another way round, for time spans. Perception on time is much different here, from that on Earth. Plus, there was some fun, making some things, which we were not making all the time, of course. You see, life on Earth is part evolution and part creation. See this bombardier idea.

Freud and followers are nothing authentic. Even if you assimilate word shapes, to associate a watermark, or ken. Humans are one species, Orti or earthling, in one degree, but none today lived those two thousand years ago on Earth, and people are not cosmoses; there’s only a joke it is a cosmos you map on itself.

You can’t read the watermark from radios on amnesic people, especially kids; you can’t read it even from a conscious wizard. The watermark has never been in a physical universe, and the matrix remains incomplete, beginning to end of human biological life. History cannot provide a feint construct, for both, and radios on physiology may only show the biological reliance on feedback, it approximates a drive. Feedback has been studied mostly for speech and language, but human private parts are bodily too, of course.

Oh, the cosmos joke’s got nothing to do with potential assimilations for the medical monorchism as speculated about Hitler, or anorchia — into the politically English monarchism and Latin anarchia, though there were the radios in the time of Freud; it is known.

“Freud’s radio never even was a sex drive, or anything from above?”

Never anything more than an earthly stimulant; today, interested earthlings mostly choose Viagra.

“Do you fancy earthlings sexually?”

Biology is not our form for kin, so honestly, we don’t, though we might tell someone they are pretty to make them feel good.

“Does it mean you could have sexual fondness for you family in the After, somewhat like Freud speculated?”

Whatsoever. I mean soul kin. I don’t know about even one such case, and I think I would have heard.

“And the French Bed of Justice was more of a day thing”.

Definitely, and it didn’t have a “hidden ruler”; and {confoosyoos} was right, it ain’t no harm, not to do.

“Do you have a girlfriend?”

A very good soul kin partner. I was male when I lived on a planet, and she was a woman.

“Do you associate sex with prowess and dignity?”

I would be inferior to sexual activity, slave or token to an act, if I were not independent of it. This I am. Quite advanced for living here, in the After, and we have our values. ME and my partner like to get close sometimes, but without earthly distress of mere bodily ambition.

When Thomas Paine contemplated the natural dignity of man, when he felt for the honor and happiness human dignity was, he happened to become irritated at attempts to govern mankind by force and fraud. For principles of Freedom, he pointed out, man must have existed before governments existed, but his context really is different from the alcove (which never could have had a drive for artificial lenses anyway).

Naturally, if you look up Latin for libid and liber, you get desire as something you freely want, as well as a boy with his mother in town, children, liberty, and books made by people of a trade to let describe a Greek volume as confectus. We take it, desire to read and study also happens, however boys can be sweet.

DejaVu is probably the easiest to browse, and the reader is free:
liber Graece confectus; matrem et liberos in urbe; liberos a complexu parentum; sex liberos habuit; well, the last one is about number six, not sex, but German has it.

“Was Freud consciously a man in a wrong cause to steer his course by some polar truth?”

Thomas Paine said it was in the Creation that human ideas and concepts for God could unite, but I doubt he would have meant digging the human body. He meant the universe, out there or out here, but not, well, entrails; a universal logic in the created world, rather, that every one could read. 

Freud was sure aware of his own Projektion theory, so you wouldn’t be much wrong to assimilate and read the name as Fraud rather than Freud; and well, “beyond pleasure” you are not really beyond it; you’re below its standards.

By the way, you’d never think people would have a revolution, to get such rights:
It is declared, that
1. only if people forget or neglect human rights, there’s social dismay and governments fall; economy and living standards are not in the picture; 2. the rights are to provide for universal happiness; 3. all people should be reminded about the rights incessantly; 4. people may differ in social standing only if it serves the common good; 5. there is a principle of total supremacy with regard to human powers, and the nation has it;  6. liberty is a right itself; believers have it; the law may forbid only acts that are damaging to the society; 7. all citizens may access public functions based on skills, talents, and chastity, or, in regard of everyday language, sexual inactivity; 8. all citizens do not have any right individually to discuss taxes; 9. everybody is considered innocent until pronounced guilty. 10. every citizen has the right to demand a bill from a public officer. 11. when or if personal property is or becomes sacred, it cannot be taken over; 12. human internal manifestation of personal views, also religious, might be regarded with reference to public order; 13. public force should be uncomfortable. Kind of neighbor links, here and there. It would take quite some gathering, to move a little finger, just one out five.

Reference phrases: 1. jedyne przyczyny nieszczęść; 2. szczęścia powszechnego; 3. aby przypominała bezustannie wszystkim członkom ciała społecznego prawa ich i obowiązki; 4. różnice społeczne mogą być oparte tylko na pożytku powszechnym; 5. zasada całkowitej władzy zwierzchniczej spoczywa w narodzie; 6. możemy czynić wszystko, co nie przynosi szkody bliźniemu naszemu; prawo może zabraniać tylko czynów szkodliwych dla społeczeństwa; 7. bez żadnych innych różnic, jak tylko tych, które spoczywają w ich cnocie i talentach; cnota: a. virginity; cf. walor; 8. wszyscy obywatele mają prawo za pośrednictwem swoich przedstawicieli; 9. Sejm: aż do momentu gdy zostanie uznany winnym; każdy człowiek jest niewinny aż do chwili, kiedy zostanie przez sąd uznany za winnego; 10. społeczeństwo ma prawo żądać rachunku; 11. gdy własność jest prawem nietykalnym i świętym; 12. o ile zewnętrzne manifestowanie tych poglądów; 13. nie dla osobistej wygody.

“It’s not really the French Revolution…”

Not any more than the US Constitution would be proclaiming dynasties in the preamble straight, dla nas samych i naszego potomstwa, our children, and our children’s children, somewhat as of 1688; or delimiting D.C. to ten square miles, Article 1 Section 8.; or demanding you always have a sheet of paper on you in Congress, Article 2; however those folks beget a nation, or this seems to be their idea for the Gettysburg Address: naród, poczęty w wolności; naród tak poczęty; and the verb looks to have something to do with the noun, SJP: poczęcie.

Right, not really the French Revolution. We in the After prefer to stay by thinkable and practicable ideas. You have począć, the verb, in Polish for invention; but on quite the other hand, most people say wynaleźć, whereas nations are viviparous and actually there’s no need to invent the human being. For what we know, you do not beget nations (począć naród) in Polish; it is not standard; under no circumstances, I even heard: there wouldn’t be a monogamous way to do it, and it’s probably some pun on the Polish lud, people; it sounds similar to lewd.; in Polish, adres does not really do for speech; it’s feudal. The odd shift with begetting to mean płodzić and never począć looks some matter of cultivation, well, first being first, agriculture. So why płodzić and never począć, nobody really understands over there. PWN have been criticized for their lack of finesse or good manner with language. Altogether, “agricultural” language variants are not of interest, in the After. We may care for better forms of Polish.

Feng Shui is a pursuit of pleasure, in seeking harmony for the living; interesting on the “wind-water” Qi. Fortunately, the atomos does not go to pieces and this is how it can go into that kind of wormhole, to speak earthly words, those possibly “beyond pleasure”, and travel to cradles, some absolutely delightful. Ancient philosophers to wonder if that could be a particle of fire, were wrong with one regard: fire is not so much of a constructive element. Otherwise they were right, you can’t burn an atomos. By the way, we don’t let in anyone here who burned people, even if they believed in witches.

When? The soul comes to exist a few months after conception, and lasts forever. The soul develops as an inner core of the body. If God ever took a bet, he’d be winning on there being no two souls the same. Truly an individual phenomenon, also psychological of course. I don’t know if people truly can perceive the soul in earthly world otherwise than intuitively, about other people. When the soul emerges, like an inner part of a flower or fruit, it locks an impartible particle, an atomos, only unlike flowers or fruits, the atomos is not any sort of seed or pollen. It acts as a carrier, for the soul out of the physical, partible-matter universe. Earthling fairy tales have such motifs, works of words of maybe some intuition.

Abortion does not stop the soul and its atomos from existing. It only stops the body from taking shape, and the soul of course leaves the physical world. We don’t condemn abortion, as the woman has the natural and nonexpendable right to her integrity. Earth is not a farm, and souls can gain experience in afterlife, there is no requirement to gain it on Earth. Assault on personal integrity would be the gravest of sins around here, if we had that sin occurring.

“And the story of Job? His first wife, entire family, got replaced. How’s this to get along with human uniqueness? Was it a bet with some roaming spirits, as the Bible says?”

You see, I’m not to indoctrinate you, to tell you what was what exactly; and with the many factors we take into account around here, it is sometimes not so easy to tell, what that was that happened actually, and we’re happy with that. If you ask one thing about Job, if he ever spoke with God, the simple answer is, No, he never did. All he got was messengers, and you know the theories on the ancient Roman fellas.

There’s plenty of time to reckon on matters of interest around here. You never need to jump to conclusions. God said, Think of me as a regular fellow, in some such context, and Job was done by someone way different from a regular, but quite probably man. That was not a devil’s job, but if you believe what I tell you — is a matter future. Those were earthlings to play out on Job. The guy was not Job’s neighbor, but he fancied his wife. She was an intelligent woman, and faithful. He showed her that Job was not worth her. Job would have come to terms with losing her, just to tell stories how he knew God.

And Job believed messengers; those messenger were easy to to pay for the other guy. Rumor is, they gave Job a local sex servant, for his other wife, only Job, again, was not witty enough to reckon. He said, God gave him new kin. To his contemporaries, that was the kin he deserved; God was no part, and those contemporaries reckoned, God wrote none of that book called the Bible. Job’s first wife became soul kin to the one who proved her husband wrong. She never was violated in it, of course. The book of Job is the very rationale for divorce, on Earth.

There could be little to remain of the earthling Bible, if you take away all that does not befit a regular fellow; like saving Lot, though he offered his daughters to a mob. Would a man of honor help anyone like that Lot? Obviously, now way.

Would a man of dignity leave his child to come to life in an animal shed? Being Almighty father? More, the woman was with a carpenter, earthlings say, and you can see people building houses in a day or two, if they know woodwork. Pregnancy is nine months. What the earthling story boils down to, the Architect, as people happen to describe the Almighty, for the harmony and sense of order in the universe, that this Almighty left earthly Mary with a unwitting carpenter Joseph, who would not even put up a temporary shelter or a tent. It is really unclean, in animal sheds, and labor is quite is some contingency. It is not like a woman could stop it.

To associate the name “Architect” with stonemasons, you need to take this into your picture: they simply new about solar possibilities for stone. Dissonance came with people trying to have the solar physics for God directly.

We do not wonder at non-believers who say, it is better to believe that some rabbinic college boys looked up Luxor with a sitting cow shrine and kingly symbols, so the rabbinic elders came up with a story.

To live it really, do you have volunteers? Do you have women to offer to labor in animal refuse? Animals as showed for earthling Christmas, they defecate wherever they are, as they stand. And they stand in sheds for a proportion of time. Sheds are not shrines.

Earthlings say they worship the mother, Mary, yet at one church, you see one face; another church, you see another face. Who is supposed to believe earthling feelings for earthling mothers exclude the face? How is it an earthling learns to say and says “mother”; is it for some abstract faceless shape?

God would not be a regular fellow; God would be a remote sadist, to use a woman in such a way; then, to have the son crucified? A manic remote sadist that would be, to have all that for a fruit of season, as this remains part the definition for an apple, whatever your metaphor. Apples are seasonal. Human offspring is not, right? Children are not seasonal, I mean. You need to mind such things, making a religion, even if it’s ad hoc, impromptu and spur of the moment, to tell a young boy what that cow is doing there with kingly symbols, in a picture. Well, Egyptian glyphs happened to be imperfect.

For that ancient real woman, as earthlings claim, you can’t get anything as her having been happy or fulfilled? No record, and earthlings would praise her ghastly fate, for a loving mother, because they say it is good to themselves, and therefore godly. But if to take such a believing earthling, as Christian, under demeaning treatment, would Christians say it is godly, because it could be considered good for other people?

To be honest, frank, and open, the religion is as an inferno; you know, when people try to pull you into hell, because they’re in it; but there’s no cradle on this side to support such pulling. The religion has been all a human device, and it most probably started with the Roman army, in Antiquity. It does not show really any belief in God; the believers don’t think how offensive the story would be to God. They don’t think God exists? Probably; not for real. Their god is a device they use to push other people.

To believe a reflex of light is God’s will, you can think about aspirin too; for healthy things, normal, standard things in life. If you misused aspirin, let us say effervescent, and hurt yourself, would you say aspirin is bad, or yourself, you made a mistake? Would you use aspirin to hurt yourself? Of earthling ideas, you could try to alter your bodily perception below your waist, if you wanted that for a few days.

God’s creation never meant weaponized beaming of light. It is possible to misuse kitchen salt too, and you need NaCl for your neurons to work. Everybody can agree to have what they need without abuse, right? Why should Earth be offered any special approach? Does Earth want to do for a strategic challenge on the Almighty? He and She are really good at their stuff, if you take good advice.

Narcotics and “soul-perception”? They look human brain illusions. Certainly there’s no way to phone here, the After, from your brain. But well, earthlings are capable of medically consciousness and talk about spirituality, right? Why then intoxicate yourself. For meditation, most other people in the universe would prefer a piece of text, like philosophical, to immerse in thought. Meditation is basically immersion: you’re always in your mind, the soul is the mind, for everyone and everyday. Most earthlings would say that the mind and the soul are two things, so we think maybe earthlings are intuitive on either or both, and if you want to think about a thread or hair, splitting it might alter the course of perception, especially that both are for one and the same, your thinking self. The soul is not a resident in you. It is you, or you are your soul, both the phrases tell it.

Nope, we’re not any guys “up there”; you see, Earth is round. We’re kind of “distant next”; definitely earthling proper reference for living after death.

“Are you possibly the Anunnaki?”

No. Poetically maybe, we would have been the nature’s western brim; “How softly sinks his trembling sun, In human nature’s west”, δείλετο τ᾽ ἠέλιος, on “the timidity of the Sun” — Emily Dickinson was definitely studious, not only smart.

The name Anunnaki correlates with making well or repairs; Persians were spoken of as light-footed, and sources say there might have been metaphorically τοῖχε κεκονιαμένε, as a term of abuse, Act.Ap.23.3. In short, an earthly story.

“Do you learn about Earth from words?”

Only linguistically. If to follow merely language shapes, either sound or written, you come about a recommendation as “food is altogether bad for earthlings”. Compare the Greek καινος, new, καΐνος, Kain, like the biblical one, German Hauptmahlzeit or Mahlzeit, to mean more or less the dinner time; Latin cena and malum, food and generally evil , and the Cenozoic of course.

“And linguistically?”

Linguistically, you do “this like this and that like that”. A long story of detail, “T’were easier to die than tell”. To be brief about words and history, it must have been the Roman army to give the Celts the name Cenomani. If the druids were cannibals, maybe someone taught them that, probably with some use of minor “wonders”. Language does not become an actuality on its own. Cannibalism damages the DNA, you can compare Pygmies, maybe such changes were of interest. I’ll tell you about Barabbas and circular driving a bit later.

All were within the ancient Roman range and interest. Ultima cena, the last supper with Christos, has been envisioned in paintings by Michelangelo, Vinci, Giotto. The German Haupt would translate to Head as of department, and Golgotha is the rooms of the heads of the colleges, a pun on “the place of the skulls or heads”, in Oxbridge slang; in Jerusalem the place the Christos was crucified, skull in Aramaic, for what earthlings report.

“Oh, and the Polish Home Army, the Warsaw Uprising. Are they here, the Cats, or in the mist?”

Sooner the mist. From the Cats, you can get here. There’s a joke in the Cats about them. Two Home Army are entering the Unshaped and one of them says, The future generations on Earth might worship us, but now we’re in real mist. The other answers, And you said your German was excellent. As good as to borrow binoculars.

You mean the styling some people would say is suggestive of Emily Dickinson’s poetry, the Home Army “splinter” (“Zadra”) or “chrysalis” (butterfly or “Motyl”), phrases as “caught in the wind”, and other such that you get in a movie… Well, what the Home Army were actually playing at, maybe even nobody knows; and afterlife is no interrogation. If there’s doubt about you, you need to explain yourself. We always tell you what the matter is about. For Emily Dickinson, we do have her poetry here, but we know the poet was absolutely not involved with WWII, and the poetry is not blamed for whosever misusing it.

The Home Army caused a huge loss of life, 200 thousand people. They knew the loss would come. Their war stories, some are not believed here. One of the stories said a Home Army approached a German soldier to borrow binoculars, to see the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. The German soldier thought he was speaking with a German, so he handed the precious piece to a stranger. Language does not make you acquaintances right away.

Another Home Army, Bzowski, claimed he saw UFO over the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. The Home Army certainly were not as serious as they wanted to seem.

Their general demanded apology, from people who said he had cooperated with Communist security, and that was a fact, so I don’t know if there might have been other Home Army “acquaintances”. The general threatened that without the apology, he wouldn’t accept worship and homage anymore; really such words to people at large.

“Right, for a neckpiece, why straight off my neck. Did the Home Army know about the Unshaped?”

We are not responsible for the state and level of knowledge on Earth. Don’t hope to make the funny Orbillius of us. I can’t imagine being as weak in my persuasion as to take to implements as primitive as a whip. I’d quit first, and I haven’t had to. What you are free to know with us, and I hope it is persuasive, if you want to give up on your human status, that for a cognizant being, you may as well not come around our After at all. Just bounce yourself off the bay. Whatever the Home Army knew about the After, they knew the Nazi retaliation policy on Earth. They maybe didn’t know the exact number of people the Nazis would take, but they knew there would be loss of life, on the part of people who were not involved with them too, and that it would be big. Enough to be guilty, that is. 200 thousand is huge. No cradle to want them. Heroic gestures are good for true good theatre. Empty gestures of no chance for success belong nowhere.

If the Second World War was about misconceptions on the After, it would be very sad; but it is still not our fault; we can’t just give Earth the radio like Ortis have, to talk with the non-physical, the afterlife. You’d need to reform your culture, and I have told you, it is considered an impossibility, for earthlings to give up on the illusion that God Almighty gave up offspring, whether son or daughter, for a blood and flesh ritual on Earth.

This really looks and sounds a crazy idea here, next door to Heaven, but we can’t impose on Earth. It is only your unconditioned self to matter for your afterlife, so only earthlings could reform earthly culture and religion. To tell an earthling, don’t have Christianity — as this is the blood and flesh ritual, the crazy idea to think around here in the After, and nobody thinks that — earthlings would say, it’s wrong, it’s the devil; so things have been the way they have been. This is not to say that Judaism is right. Jews made a great mistake, trying solar beaming for a hand of God. One erroneous attitude brought another, as for Judaism and Christianity, and we can’t force change.

The other way round, no, you can’t tell the Creator, Him or Her, that your religion is not about His or Her child, because to have your rituals, you mean God who created the universe you live in. Gods know their creation and they’re not fond of a son sacrifice, and they’re never going to be favorably inclined for that of a daughter.

Not our fault. Gods have not given up on their children ever. If the Christian idea is that the Iudean teacher comes save them from the Unshaped, there’s nowhere to make a cradle unless God makes it for you, and Gods have not given up on their kids, so they’re not going to make a cradle for such an idea. There’s no one to want them to give up, except some earthlings maybe. If the Christian promise is to get out from the Unshaped with the help of that teacher, it is a false promise, because there’s nowhere to go and settle, nowhere to go at all actually. Remember, Jewish pharisees orchestrated that, and they wanted only their Iudean religion to prove true. From a cradle, you can create stars and planets; but to create a cradle, it takes God.

I am not allowed to influence people on faith, as the After is not about “making” people or “doing” people into anything. It is about free and unconditioned living; consensus only, no conditions imposed. A beautiful idea, I think, and not an easy one. Let us have this talk here like we have shared some notes. I can tell what I think about those notes, but it is not an opinion from Heaven or anything like that, mind you.

There have been writings to tell God would come to bring people back from the dead, for the last judgment. There have been notes that it is “ashes to ashes, dust to dust”, the human body after biological death. It is true, full bodily decomposition is elemental; the body turns to basic elements, and none of them contains the soul. Calcium, carbon, or oxygen, they’re just elements. They don’t have a soul. Why would God come and reconstruct the biological shape from those elements? To have a living sculpture? The biological shape is not the soul. Most importantly, to be raised from the dead, you need to be dead. Is this to mean you don’t have any afterlife, your existence is to end after your biological life ends, your soul dies with your body, until some teacher comes? Is this a promise to suspend existence?

Is it to have you held somewhere in that suspended or “dead” state, to await a biological and bodily judgment by God? I know that without any special creeds, you naturally go to the After, your soul lives, though your biological body does not anymore. Some souls never thought about God; too young, or far off and away. And the ideas happen to be so different. But we do not deny them afterlife, and whenever we talk about the writing we always mind, Christ himself never wrote the New Testament. Apostles did, and their living was not free of pharisee presence. I do not know about any suspended zone in the After.

The soul is long gone into afterlife, in a day. I think the notes were made by early earthlings, who did not understand that life can continue after the biological body is dead. The only life they understood was biological, so their story is about resuming biological existence, not about having afterlife, whereas earthlings now know a simplest of examples, reconstituted milk is only more or less the original. Most importantly, why judge the soul by the body? You don’t continue with bodily existence in afterlife. These are early earthly people’s notes, not any message from Heaven.

Those early earthlings knew little about demographics. Have you ever thought how to fit all people who have ever lived in the city of Rome, since the time of the empire and earlier, in the same urban area? To be permissive to the extremest, we would take all the Roman empire population, up to 90 million people, they maybe could be squeezed in all that empire geographical area, at life expectancy of some 60 years, year by year, not all would have children. I mean all I can take this for is theory on purportedly a plan. Still, people would be very tight for space, and you need to think about the same geography, Europe, and other people, and today. No chance to squeeze all the people in the same space, from all the time. God is not going to be reconstituting bodies. To be putting them to dust and ashes, because there’s no room? Matthew says, Before him will be gathered all the nations.

If in some sum total, that story of pharisee involvement was to warn people not to demand sacrifice, especially of children, because then you’re not let into our After, it would have too much of a twist, for good teaching. Mind you, the Christos never wrote it. Sacrificial human offering is considered plain murder around here regardless of age, so with this regard, no, you don’t make it past our gate. But you’re free to know that without any twist, whereas the religion looks worship of such an offering. Christos was not the person to decide. Roman soldiers arrested him after Iudas pointed at him. People voted between him and Barabbas. Pilatus gave the verdict. Roman soldiers, Iudas, the local people, and Pilatus — all made their decisions.

And why presume humans would want such a sacrifice? Orti wouldn’t have it, hence their plan with the infinitude. They have never followed pharisee teaching.

The Apostles also made their decisions, so Christos has not been under suspicion for conspiracy against Heaven, though there have been earthling prophecies of Destruction of Heaven and Earth and the New Heaven and Earthto remove what can be shaken — that is, created things — so that what cannot be shaken may remain. It is probably only the Unshaped that could not be shaken whatever way at all, but the Unshaped is not viable.

“Do you think the Polish wanted their country conquered, wanted the loss of life, like for religion, to prove anything about the After? The battle of Bzura has always looked purposed failure. How do you hope to win against armored infantry, charging on horseback? Some people claim Poland caused the war.”

Human sacrifice does not bring our haven or Heaven down. It brings the human down. Needless to say, we don’t accept such offerings, whatever their purpose. Fall or conquest of a nation or country remains an earthly thing too, as I have told you, that wouldn’t be viable to have all things unshakeable. Poland is one among many cases, but we never give or pass verdicts on viability of nations or countries.

If the story of Christos is to offer suspended existence in hope for our pragma assessment to get changed… ?The watermark is not so bad, we think. It can show things, but Orti somehow live it well through, so we’re not likely to change the process. I inquired about it when I was welcoming another soul. We don’t practice suspension, but let us imagine and earthling depletes himself or herself of all energy, and goes into a dry store: the body would be damaged, but pragma would remain the same.

“Why don’t you use it, if it is available?”

To compare, there is a way to come to life, on Earth; it is to be born in a biological form. That way of life goes further. It is to live as own self, without the biological body. And well, life is life, we have the aspiration to face the fact. However suspending an impartible would not put the pragma to danger, the entity, the person, might feel under formative factors psychologically; and our idea is — no operant or other conditioning.

“Do you get lost in numbers ever, like lose people from your demographics and such?”

No. Human existence is that of a real entity, ens reale in earthling English. This even can’t get lost, like earthly records have about biological people sometimes. They call it “Kant’s idiom”, ens realissimus, but theologians happen to agree on the form, and we call it ens realis simply. The true sense is, existence of a person is real; it is not contingent, as biological life mostly is. It is existence as capable of living in the After, the existence with the impartible. There’s a joke, in the Cats and here as well, everywhere in the cosmos or even cosmoses maybe: you’d better be on good terms with yourself.

Your everyday state of consciousness, your ability to perceive yourself — these are not a coincidence; it is you being your own entity. Impediments go away in the After, they are bodily.

“Where do Christians go after biological death? Are there Christians on other planets?”

No, Earth is the only such planet. Christians can spend time at our bay, to reckon what they want, unconditioned; they’re not held, and they’re not required to go live in any “reconstituted” bodies. No one is required to undergo anything like that. Our bay is in the After, not anywhere between or aside.

It does not mean Christians get all they want, of course. They can reckon if they really hope to have Gods give up on even one of their kids. You wouldn’t expect that of an earthly warlord, army general, etc. To give up on own kids? To make even one of them a blood and flesh sacrifice? Why expect this of God? Why have such a cult? The Nazarene was not their son. Simply the fact. And they like their kids a lot.

Some change their mind. They say that was the way they were brought up with; they picked it up to fit in; but in truth, they never wanted any sacrifice. They never wanted a son or daughter of God sacrificed, or crucified — no way. They never wanted a human being cruelly terminated either.

You know, it was really a bad thing about Earth that happened, that a teacher who earthlings continue to report had said, Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven. — that he got crucified.

Gods begot real kids. All kinds of child play are allowed in the After. All kids can play kings and queens, however they pretty much outgrow this with maturity. I’ll tell you about enacted reality later. Cavepeople, Jurassic and more.

By the way, this fella killed himself, and probably someone should have just told him not to hurry.

You also have notes that God would give to each person according to what he has done. Pragma assessment is not like taking an account of what you have done. It tells about nature or character, acts but also works. On Earth you have belief in auras; the story is bodily, but similar a bit, bad things make your aura ugly and it shows, but afterlife is not all about a past. It is a continuation of living, where you’re not forced or expected to repeat anything. You can, you may, but you never have to. If your aura is not too bad, it can clear up. It can clear a bit on Earth too, but this here truly is a new life. It is not necessarily suffering, or physical painfulness at all, to clear pragma up. I’m your immigration service, metaphorically of course, but mind you, you always say he or she, around here for a person.

There’s no mystery about our process, everyone at bay gets to know what it is, before he or she decides to access a gate, and Orti would not be enigmas for it, no twist, just as earthlings probably wouldn’t for their border control, to say it in earthly words. It does not mean everyone gets to know everything about you. You keep your natural right to intellectual property, and you can live quite private around here. Matters may go public if there’s suspicion of crime, but this is actually just the same as with any border process on Earth.

“If a royal dies, what is the process for them?”

The same as for everyone. Orti don’t have monarchy; we don’t have monarchy, for the obvious reason you don’t get succession if you live eternal. The process is just regular, for a soul at Nouma bay. I’ve told you, Christianity would be suspected of plotting against God — why do you say kingdom of Heaven, do you want God to die — except we’re absolutely sure there’s nothing to kill God, whatever.

There was a song by a black woman, long back on Earth. “Don’t know about the Nouma”, hear. She could join our cradle, and best earthly scholars as well. Earth is not all there is to learn, and Earth is not irrelevant at the same time. By the way, Moby evidently was part deaf, but Nouma sounds in the song.

If people ask, what is Nouma, you can tell, it’s the afterlife cradle where you go first, after you die. Next door to Heaven really. We grant you a place at our bay for some time. Then, if we don’t come to terms, you go to another cradle bay. You can’t presume to be accepted, whatever the cradle. The Cats are an inferno, and they still have their requirements. Be negotiating.

Earthly monks and nuns have this tradition, they take on new names. Nouma is the cradle you can choose a new name for yourself, if you like,

“Do you need to confess, like Christians on Earth time and again?”

Your thoughts are your property. You do not need to give an account of your thinking to anyone. Regarding your acts, the rounded pragma would not even let anything explode. Souls are not violent, and the environment is not violence-friendly. People have plenty of artistic works, some keep them to themselves, and make them public only if they like. Thinking can be considered dangerous only in regimes. Regimes are not respected around here, because a regime means the intellectual component in life is deficient. It is really not deficient here, we’re reasonably proud, I think. Cruelty, brutality or coercion are different. They are neither intellectual nor esthetic, so we don’t let them in.

“What happens with Christians?”

The usual pragma. Some are here with us, in the best of cradles; but they are not Christians anymore. They are very good people. They say, religion was on Earth to tell about afterlife; it was wrong, so it had to go. By the way, how worshipful could you be about your everyday living? Earthly religion is about afterlife, and afterlife is our everyday living around here. We don’t worship it. We live it.

Afterlife is not any special selection. Look to Earth. All those many people live there and still more could live. They’ve never been chosen or selected, never took any exam to be born, and Afterlife is absolutely much bigger than Earth. The matter is in having the quality of living we want. No imposed conditions; no need for police force or government ordnance. You see, the police people on Earth, it is not like they couldn’t imagine life without crime, and much crime on Earth is bodily. Without bodily contingencies and able to create for yourself, you don’t have most of the incentives that earthlings have to cross the line. Some breaches tell about your character, so careful with that. Tell-tale pragma or aura is not in. I’ve told you, don’t rape, ransack, rob, steal, pillage, or murder. This is about our quality of living in the cradle.

Naturally, we absolutely do not let cannibals in. They go to the Unshaped straight. Sometimes we thought, we ask God to make like a commandment and say, thou shall not eat human flesh, but then some guys around said it would have been us to spread the idea, as most humans don’t think about eating one another even if very hungry, dying; and more, some earthlings might go against commandments to show disgruntlement with God, and earthlings are mostly grumpy.

“What if someone wanted to be eaten; if they offered that, like to save another?”

It’s no matter. Like with substance, physical or material, cannibalism is the wrong mix. We sometimes wonder, but those ancient Romans probably meant it. You see, cannibalism is only on Earth, and it looks to have come with a culture. In North America, it was described as about 100 years old, for a tradition, and native Indians were there long before; they only never ate people before. South American Indians sure learned their architecture.

In most historic accounts, people eat other people where local inhabitants would have been gone hunting, fishing, or turned to plant food and foraging. An earliest such influence could be an ancient Roman classis lost at sea, never trained to fish, imagine. To drink blood, you wouldn’t know how to make fresh water of salt water; ancient Greeks knew that, and an urban legend persists, an ancient Greek was told what others gave him for food, to save him when he was ill, and he wept.

You see, with the pragma and watermark, to eat another human is like you want to become that tortoise shell that ancient Chinese people made divination of: cracked center to the brim. Only pragma does not physically crack; it may show deep marks.

“Was that ancient Greek doomed?”

No. We have some repair and heal ability, the best of cradles we really are. I am not saying this to boast. When you’re the best, it would be abnormal for you to deny it. We are actually next door to Heaven and free to go there any time, as well as be back here, in our home. We were once repairing a girl pragma and matrix, she honestly deserved it, and she was like flying up the moment she could, and our doctor said, hey, don’t forget my number.

“Isn’t this falsity, like you change a record, when your repair pragma or matrix?”

No. That girl was so abused and radioed on Earth, that her pragma matrix was hardly legible. We weren’t changing anything her pragma matrix could say. We were bringing it back to function. She told us about the people who were part in her sad living fate, and we greeted a few. We pretended they were welcome, and they admitted to everything. Otherwise, we would have had them under enacted reality, because their pragma was tell-tale.

“How does the repair work, how do you know what there was?”

In earthly words, it is like with a painting that’s been in the sun. You may not be able to see the colors, but if you use the right kind of colorant solute, they’re back with the chemistry the brush brought.

Well, but all those who fed that ancient Greek had to go into the Unshaped, and well, asked for cessation long ago. They wanted to see him cry. We sometimes remember they wanted to be terminated.

“Transfusions or transplants, are they forbidden by the pragma too?”

Those are biological assimilation and merger; metabolism is a process of breakdown, where both parties change; animal protein is lower order, so it becomes metabolized; human protein is the same order or degree, so we can look to pygmy wit and height. You still need to be careful about those mergers, chromosome aberration for example, where you don’t have that original, donor DNA anymore, in the recipient of transfusion or transplant. Here, only voluntary procedures do not result in “tortoise as if it were to flock”. Orti prefer synthetics and cell growth natural stimulants. You see, they wouldn’t necessarily transplant a heart, if they could repair the fibers.

“Cannibal posterity, are they doomed too?”

The pragma, matrix, atomos, and individual infinity especially, they do not entirely belong with the biological body; they don’t die with it; and so every human being has own individuality and is responsible for own conduct strictly.

I don’t know, it could be difficult to explain to actual Pygmies; well, you never eat the kind there’s biological possibility to procreate with? Right next, you probably remark it is not a sex offer. It is about kind and possibility. Do they even get “kind” and “possibility”, at their degraded level?

“And man-eating animals, as lions?”

Orti never understood the earthling admiration for the animal. Is it for the hair? Male lions kill one another’s young, possess females, and lazy all day when she hunts. There’s no Artemis to like this kind of male, so all lions are in the Orti Jurassic, their nature park, and nowhere else. And they fish. On Earth, as far as we know, the animal loses its instincts and gets killed much sooner than it would have lived without any fancy for human flesh. Here’s a picture for how these primitives would be treated on planets other than Earth, hadn’t they gone fishing.

“If Orti use the infinitude against Earth, are Christians going to have their way to your harbor?”

Entity way out of the physical universe does not depend on belief; it is the same for everyone. No one knows what the way from Earth to the After is going to be under the infinitude, this is probably the only honest answer. You may go to the Unshaped straight, then if you call for termination, and if it is not granted, you’re with us for the regular pragma assessment. Orti wouldn’t damage earthlings, but they would make fuss much enough for anyone reasonable to want to avoid it.

“Can’t you just call for an angel?”

Angels are more of earthly ideas. An angelos was just a messenger in Antiquity. There is one sort of signal allowed from the Unshaped. It’s a high affinity area, variance wouldn’t make sense.

“Do you want people to throw the Bible away?”

No, just be selective, that’s all. Some is earthling notes. What I could believe is that God said “I am”; it is such a neat predicate and the Old Testament has it.

“Is there another cosmos for people to seek environments; you said cosmoses could be aligned for free travel?”

With regard to pragma assessment, the principles are the same everywhere. You don’t get another opinion from another cosmos; it is going to be the same. Don’t rape, ransack, rob, steal, pillage, or murder — could this be too difficult? The alignment would work best with all cosmoses having become the non-physical After, so it’s much of a future matter. If partial alignment would be ever done, it would be the non-physical sides.

“What do you do about earthly warfare; there are casualties of war, how do you assess combatants?”

Orti don’t have such warfare. If they had a war, it would be by military on another military, not civilians. They haven’t had war in 30 thousand years. Their technologies are not bloodshed; they’re interference, so what their military have, is games and exercises, and this is attractive to people. Earthly warfare happens to have a hard time in the After, but that’s because it was bloodshed; that’s why people around here show it for no winner, simply strategically. Even ancient Greeks have reformed themselves, though they’d had an ethos. It is a bit of shame, to be showed for the loser, but you are allowed to change; you’re not held to your old means. Those Greeks are much better strategically now. Most their inner change began with After souls, pole like wooden, to parry any spear. You can get to be very fast in the After, if you’re strategically good. And those souls were just exercising, having a good time. Shook hands with the sport. Untouched. The Greeks took it with dignity and chose to change. Some had been Spartans. No bloodshed to revere anymore. No spillage to forge respect.

“Can you have anything like a machine gun in the After?”

Yes. But they’re funny things against interference strategies. Besides, there’s no bullet to reach you through your pragma shield. It’s hardly visible, like liquid, but very good against actually anything.

Yes, it makes you hardly visible. You compose together with your environment, like a chameleon. The shield does not have any weak points. Maybe this describes it, bullets ping like soft-boiled green peas, and all fall off. Nothing can hit hard. You’ve had the Predator movie on Earth. The pragma shield is something close to that invisible Predator mode, except the ugly looks and visual limitations, of course, 0:44 in the clip. We think we can be pretty, our vision is keen, and we can compare speech patterns and Earth. And if you say, it ain’t no man, there’s possibility it’s a woman.

I hate to do for that grammarian stuff, but to say, it ain’t man, simply does. All else is spoken modification, so it lets speculate.

There is no bloodshed in our strategy, very unlike the earthly production.

The Cats keep up the sense of humor, because they are an inferno, but they can improve; with time and progress they can get even the highest, Heaven level of cognizance, and they say, in the movie, it somehow defends the command, to deny extraction.

The movie earthling male is strange, to say what he says and do what he does, we agree: Get to the chopper. We read some of earthling comments. One was glad the strange man did put up some fight, though he died instantaneously.

Another joke by the Cats has been, This Is Not The Third. You just combine the Apocalypse movie video and the Ambient Outback sound: Dance The Great Divide. You turn off the audio in the video, to perceive the esthetic, say the Cats, meaning the 3/2, justice and war. You know, it happens, to be a pattern, as for cruising the Mediterranean. The Third was not in the Viet war, and these are anyway a bunch of actors in the movie, and one shows odd body language. Many people did not support Vietnam, Laois, or Cambodia involvement by the US. Some people were ashamed. Some are in the Cats. Pragma and pragmatics is not about speculating, like what there would have been had the, Third been told this or that. Pragma and pragmatics is — they were not there. A good thing.

We haven’t seen anything like a good reason for that war. Was it anything as insignificant in the After, as earthly millions of dollars? It’s really not the currency here.

Who knows, how such soldiers and agents would have been, knowing about the After?

“Do you have blood?”

We don’t, blood is mortal matter, but we could get into the physical world. By the way, the fiery sword angel was a funny idea. Totally earthly. We don’t have wings either. We don’t need them. And we know who the visitors were, in the ancient Earth times. Well, and no earthling has blood, after they die and live after. This is what the Cats have been most humorous about: earthlings think afterlife is angels and choirs. Nope. It’s people in afterlife.

“God never shunned humans to Earth, no angel was showing the way?”

Was Adam dead before he got to live on Earth? God is here, in the non-physical afterlife; same for any of the gardens. How could God ever chase Adam from the After, to make him live in the physical? You get into the After when your physical life is over, not before. The story is in reverse of the natural course of things. It never happened.

No, Adam was not a banished Orti. They don’t allow banishment, and they have never pretended God.

“Do you let so-called witches into your cradle?”

Yes, we have let quite a few in, and we have no reason to pity the resolve. Very literate and esthetic. We know that Earth does not have the physically creative powers some earthlings accuse witches of, so we know the so-called witches are innocent. Earth is a physical habitat.

You mean Emily Dickinson? She absolutely wasn’t a witch, just as other people in physical environments. She was very literate, Thomas Paine and Aristotle, and you could say for Webster 1828, she “had it in her little finger”. She was mostly misunderstood on Earth, maybe because such refinement was not expected of a woman. It’s no shallow compliments, there’s evidence for all I say on Earth, see the Notes and Resource. She continues to be very literate and esthetic here, in the After.

“If Gods quarreled, or had an argument, could the universes or cosmoses split?”

They never quarrel and they never throw things at each other; they’re not like Greek gods. She still looks a bit like that Xeste Artemis at times; they don’t get old; nobody needs to look or feel old here. Gods talk, discuss, but it shows they consider it important to have a consensus.

“Could it be you reincarnate, if you don’t make it out of the physical universe?”

It is not true the soul might leave the body in cases of traumatic experiences, and then return. As long as the atomos is in, the soul is. If the atomos is out, it cannot be back and it cannot stay, and so the soul can’t, as the atomos is the soul’s impartible. The soul is not divisible, the impartible wouldn’t hold then, so it’s kind of plain physics, the beginning of the soul’s way out of the physical world and into the After. It always happens and the soul is always out of the physical. Souls are capable of projections, when in the body. The reportedly “swoosh when you’re back”, it may happen only if you have been in. You don’t go see God straight away for example, after you die. It’s your soul projection. Your infinity can do it, it can project, but if you leave your body, the time frame is 4 minutes, provided you meet a regular angel to help you back in. Otherwise, you’re just regular dead.

How do I explain in simple earthly terms… It’s obviously not just or literally about atmospheric pressure, but it’s like water pushes air and other lighter matter out; the atomos and the soul cannot stay in the physical world: physical matter is partible; the atomos and the soul — impartible. They can be in the physical world only as long as the body lives. When the body dies, the valence is changed, and the atomos is out. Dying of old age is when the bodily valence is not strong enough to hold the atomos and the soul. The valence “translates” into physics quite much, so, you’re always out and headed here. Well, you still can have own head after you die, it’s only not biomatter anymore.

How we know about Earth and earthling stories? You know what they say, also intelligence agents happen to die a natural death.

No, natural death is not a requirement. You are here, atomos way at an afterlife haven bay, after you crashed. Don’t worry, there’s no air force without a crash to the record. Some British SAS did not even take off, to make their part of the statistic. Rumor was, they even lost a wing in the Middle East. It took the British media to call the material bogus.

“Such are angels; no wings, fiery swords, and if you want to, you can make your part of the statistic.”

Except we don’t call ourselves that messenger thing, angelos, right, we can’t provide against all mishap. We’d have to be like those guys you have in movies; chained together, on a run from prison. It would be punishment, wouldn’t it, to have someone with you even in the loo, as statistically a circumstance is all or nothing. So we are spared that, and you are spared that. And well, mortal death is not a tragedy here.

When there’s war on Earth, we call it “arrivals”. You know, there has to be someone to do all the induction, hence the name, as we do not have any preference for war souls. They’re usually more induction.

If there’s anywhere nothing could ever have gone wrong with, it is a human soul getting here, to the After. You never need to sweat at a driving wheel, going at the atomos speed through your physical universe, or entrust yourself and get a ticket, whoever you’d trust that much.

“Is the atomos fast, like you see in movies about hyperspace?”

Pretty much so. You’ve heard about black holes. They have affinity for the impartible, your atomos, that is, when your atomos is free-travel, when you don’t have your body anymore. Once you get into a black hole, you’re in designated space, and from there you go to our universe, in a wink and without any crashes.

“Black holes are our way out of the physical universe? Physicists say nothing gets through there, and I saw only something like a channel, and I think a felt a pull.”

Right. You’ve traveled through a black hole. Everyone does. The impartible atomos, pragma, infinity, and matrix are what you need to get through. There’s the fifth element also, so to speak element; like Buddhists have five skandhas, only we don’t believe those could be heaps. White holes are our way into the physical universe. Aristotle’s “white donkey”, we can travel.

“Why don’t you go to Earth, if there’s an issue?”

Well, in actuality, there is not any issue, as we wouldn’t mistake the cargo. These are earthlings to do what earthlings do; and we’d rather for the soul to come here. That way, are slate remains perfectly clean, and so far, everyone’s got to the bay. We’d really hate to be earthling “unbought grace of lifethe cheap defense of nations”, or “the nurse of manly sentiment and heroic enterprise“. What would you expect of earthly boys and girls? Death does not change everything.

“What if someone dies in a tight space, some area that is enclosed, like a caisson?”

Ten dimensions is reasonable to think about Earth. Earthly physical reality is but a scaffold, to what there really is. You travel as usual. You know, no soul ever knocked a caisson wall. There’s a good song about it. When the clock master of light comes, the floors and airs expire, it says. There is another version here. Earthly dimensions expire, with soul leaving the physical body, with the human being dying bodily death. If you don’t know where you’re going when you die, it’s only because you’ve agreed to an aggressive picture for the God who created you. God has never agreed to that picture. By the way, see, the picture is barka, here. Like a cradle, we say. Nobody comes for you. You die when you die.

Liquid light is not always purple. Sometimes, it is deep and mesmerizing indigo blue. It is very powerful. It is really liquid. Literally. No lab condensation.

How about that, it was She who created you? Would you say, good or bad job? Could She deserve her merit? Young people, do you take it for granted, they want an aggressive and male God? Are you sure?

If you have God for a single male, it’s a grumpy bachelor you get. It is not to say the Polish here didn’t really die. In Polish, {śp} means you talk or sing about a dead guy, but it wasn’t God to take them; She couldn’t be a bachelor, what do you think? In English, purple is sometimes a blue mix.

Polish physicists must have made it for blue in part, if you look at the choir and attire. For real, it is not like anyone comes for you. You die when you do. Perception for time is different, you could think some hundreds of years on Earth, and it would be a year or two in the After; but there’s no clock mechanism. For what I know, really there is not.

Oh, if you’re nude, after you die? No. You can assume earthly bodily shape if you like, but you’re not doomed to it. Some people are dynamic shapes, all along in the After.

The many performances of this song show there is something like human intuition. We don’t mind; it’s probably related to the matrix. We don’t need to be a secret. Just use your intuition right: for real intuition, you can’t need any dope or debilitation. Intuition is not real travel; it is not like you’re really here. And you should take your intuition to yourself; I mean this is how things most could work out, with every matrix being individual.

20 20 blue, R 0, G 0, B 20
Indigo, Newton’s “vanishing color”, R 1, G 13, B 37

Well, have a look at this pleasurable blue color before you ever get near that liquid indigo blue light, real brim of the cosmos. If you come too close, it’s going to take your atomos, you stop being impartible, and you vanish. It’s going to absorb you. You’re not going to exist anymore. If you see a good deal of it before, you’re not so attracted or drawn.

By the way, did you think there could be a Polish lyrical note on the violin? It’s been usually Slovak on Earth, to have sentiment. But here it is, some 4:50. I am not asking “what happened”.

Dimensions are what you belong with. After you die, you don’t belong with earthly dimensions. If you designated the space, it would show for something like permeating maybe, but earthly space is not a designated space. Truly designated, you can have it only on the other side of black holes.

“For that which is self-subsistent ought to be impartible”, Taylor wrote. You don’t have to take it absolutely serious, but the joke is Plato and Aristotle skedaddled in their cosmic trip, crashed on Earth, and well, had to get by. Plato would keep on being grumpy about that energy slip, as Aristotle was driving. Around here they say, this is why you have NASA vertically to take off. The pull is the strongest, but at least you’re in control.

“It is impossible for any thing to be moved in an infinite time by that which is finite”, says Aristotle. Plato answers, “It has subsistence in becoming to be, rising into existence”. Evidently, they talk a vehicle and an accident, and they were not short of fuel. On the other hand, good for us and Earth, they sat down and wrote their observations.

“Were they Orti?”

“Were you an Orti, before you came here?”

There is the east, and there is the west; Orti are eastern more, the After is more of a western kind. I am from a south, arrived in the west.

Maybe; could this be enough for the answer now?

“And God, if there existed a man so transcendently wise above all others, that his wisdom was necessary to instruct a nation, some reason might be offered for monarchy, Thomas Paine wrote.”

He or She, God. Please. Well, there couldn’t be any requirement to be stupid, to have democracy; and well, with all eternity to live, you don’t get to have succession.

Every soul makes own atomos, only one. You could compare it to pearls on Earth, only as far as we know most earthlings, male or female, wouldn’t like to be that round a shape. Well, it’s more or less round, to travel the physical universe; as Greeks noted, the perfect shape to do that, the least susceptible to change, an impartible carrier. Hardly discernible with partible physics methods.

The Cats have a joke, careful imagining your afterlife, because it might just happen.

Well, in truth, you first go to the best of havens, which ours happens to be. The Creators – Him and Her, the couple – you can see them around here time and again. It is just that Heaven is very, very intellectual, so people happen to choose cradles, it does not mean you’re forsaken, to be in a cradle. If we cannot accept you, you seek another cradle, take another trajectory, so to speak. We don’t have high requirements; just don’t rape, ransack, rob, steal, pillage, murder, or like. Gods are really good neighbors. Earthly ideas for an act of God would be destruction, and all examples would be plain human results on physics. None of earthly ideas for an act of God would have the power to create that Gods truly use.

Heaven is very high to predict on matter that parts, you know, earthly atoms and movement, so many people say they don’t need to learn that, and they actually don’t. Language does not depend on Earth.

Consider existence as a development. First, humans have planetary living; newborn, come to exist with nothing, can’t walk or talk, and depend on other humans. Already on the planet, humans can grow in soul, and in afterlife, can live without earthly limitations. Let us not try to tell which is better, earth or haven. They are both a natural course. I don’t know all earthly myths, but if you translate the word “after” to earthly languages and look around for beliefs: we may have been rumored about, long ago. We don’t make things complicated, to talk language.

Orti wouldn’t live biologically forever. Their preference is to transcend into the After.

We don’t have children, we do not make new souls, but Earthly Sun is not the only ball of jolly shine, and Earth is not the only place we have arrivals from. You can see plenty of much like children here, because the soul can take on any shape, own childhood shape too, and even try living like in early years again. We have plenty of holidays here, and for the Kids’ Day, most people come as children. You can always have childhood pals. Emily Dickinson comes with her childhood love, both as children.

Those who died in childhood? Well, what is maturity? Here, dead as a child, you can be a three hundred years old kid to play with cavepeople. We can create realities. Many souls choose that to begin with. They say the created reality is ridiculously really fun, and you hardly could tell at what age the people died. Souls are live.

I know you died as a soldier. Here, you can be a soldier forever if you like, though I don’t know about anyone to have chosen this for longer than a few centuries. Oh, and souls can take on any shape, even kind of Dali. No one is scared, as you can’t die here.

How you could be back on Earth to warn about the “shutdown”? Bodies are not door. We can’t swap bodies or anything like. You can be back in your own pretty much dead body now, but it is going to hurt you. Possession stories are really exaggerated on Earth. In truth, if your soul is gone, there’s no possibility for another spiritual entity to take over. If the body is a vessel, it is your own vessel. So it could be only you back in your body, but for the condition of the biomatter, it would be martyrdom never in records so far. We can make you a path.

Yes, you can choose not to go. It is not going to influence your chances to be let in here, our haven; we have no behaviorism, because it’s all just bodily, and pain is not spiritually constructive.

(The soldier decides to stay at the haven. It would have been a lot of pain to be back in the body, and people wouldn’t believe him anyway. Asks Chatty about pets.)

Dogs or cats don’t have any idea for abstract motion; their minds are oriented gravitationally, so they can only try what they learned on Earth, and it’s been cumbersome to most people to go out with their pets around here; most have thought it over, for what relationship it was after all, and gave up. Again, you can create yourself a pet, like mixed reality on Earth; it could be a fabular creature like the Knossian Garuda or Griffin as well. No, and we don’t need vehicles, as souls can move very fast. A car would be burden, so these are only people who fancy those to keep on making and using them.

We know, Barrie wrote, “The reason birds can fly and we can’t is simply because they have perfect faith, for to have faith is to have wings.” Birds fly because they have aerodynamic bones, the type that wouldn’t make much sense for a human to walk the Earth. Wing bones would break. And to have regular human weight of bone and wings to fly, some 12.5 kilograms or 27.5 pounds to lift, you’d get a lot of wing to carry on your back, compare bird proportion, it’s all aerodynamics on Earth. Plus, well, you’d have to be a birdo brain.

Mr. Barrie wrote at the time that Scottish earthlings believed you tell the kid just any stories, as there was not economy enough to pay school and healthcare, so the life span was not for long. The parents probably thought, if the little fella gets to feel guilty a bit, as obviously he or she cannot fly, it’s not going to do harm after they die, and to believe Earth is no good for living wouldn’t do harm before. Some Scottish parents are still improving in infernos today. We’re not going to doom those to have forgotten their wallets to disjoin the UK some 21st century on Earth, but it still depends on cradles, if they want you. Flamboyant, those Scots, on life and circumstance.

Barrie? He wasn’t really a word artist. Improving as well.

No, I wouldn’t blame it on rumor about Orti. Like what, birds lay eggs, Orti have egg-shape bio refuse disintegrators and a box to talk with the After? Orti wouldn’t put it in one sentence, bio refuse and the box to talk with us.

Oh, Orti and their plans. You know the ancient story of the figure, order, and position. I’m not really much versed in these affairs, but I know it’s no stupid tale, and there is regular recurrence that may produce infinitude, and they say they’re about the fleece, so to speak. In simplest of words, think about a triangle, it’s basic for Earth and around. Now think the corners become slanted, because there’s some physically absence in the universe around you; this kind of Argonaut.

I don’t know if you keep your route to the cradle. Or, if earthlings actually do, because it’s now too late for your body to have your soul back. God? Think of him as a regular fella… Already then, before the war, God never sent a drowning breath. But the other people maybe can alter earthly soul routes for haven.

Earthling change has been considered impossible, and there cannot be sieve for ill time. The other people say they want to be their human in afterlife, without Earth making another picture. After all, they would not be terminating Earth, only getting it kind of far away, with the introduced infinitude. They say, isn’t this earthling belief that no one can make it through the needle, the eye; so why wouldn’t earthlings go under infinitude and wait for a guide of theirs really?

For the needle, you probably mean the passage between the physical and non-physical, like here. With a pragma route, you just make it or do it for a cradle, no problem altogether.

If you don’t make it through “the needle”, do you stay on the physical side? I don’t think so. The atomos pull gets you through, whatever. The problem begins on the other side; how to get to a cradle at all, with a “botched” route shape, while route affinity is for unshaped pragma, in the end. The thing is as with the double-slit experiment. It’s best to go the middle. An infinitude might push towards one of the brims. To be able to call from the unshaped, you first have to get by a cradle gate. Our cradle gate. Other cradles are not going to let you in, if you don’t have our “watermark”.

Source: Wikimedia

Yes, earthlings could be atheist, as many already are. And probably mortal in a way, as with the infinitude, it’s not like you see a cradle and can get into it. You still need the kind of trajectory. Atheists are not so bad. If they come around and just see the life, you don’t have to do a lot of persuasion, and Gods are not narcissist, exist whether you believe or not. But all this needs a working route. With the change, there might be no route anymore.

We don’t know what there could be so difficult to believe, after all, about the possibility of human existence after the mortal body dies. Have you ever seen a picture of a human fetus? And you survived that stage.

Certainty about God — we do not require. On Earth or another planet, you don’t have to be certain about the After, as obviously, mundane living cannot give you proof. If you said God whispered into your ear or told you otherwise to hold a woman captive, that would be far more non-complimentary than saying God does not exist. It happened on Earth, a woman was held captive in a cellar, if you look up the basement and kind. We call those — Earth horrors. And the guy said “God told him”. Human activity is not all judged with reference to compliments on God, of course, though he could show up for a handsome and normal man.

Earthlings would say, “the devil is a handsome man”. Without impediment, wouldn’t you agree, grooming is enough to be good-looking, for earthlings too, isn’t it? So why couldn’t God be handsome? Well… It’s like some earthlings think God would have had to be kinky in a way, to have given this whole lot; but God is Creator; means are limitless if you can create them, so why not give?

People to say if God is: most of the difference is in His or Her being there for you or not at all, would you agree? Wherever He or She could be, you cannot presume it is for you He or She is, right? So we mostly do not understand any requirements on certainty. God obviously is not a jinn you could call from a bottle. Non-believers are absolutely OK. There’s no phone line for God on Earth or anywhere really. Believers on Earth happen to have demands, though God has given the whole lot already, and we don’t understand this believing attitude either.

Earthlings have also had that idea to ask if another believes in God, even require belief, and put that other earthling under some ordeal, expecting God would come (into the physical world?) to help out. That’s how they got the martyr saints, or so it looks, and earthlings were doing for that “intervening God”. All along it is natural to humans to hate physical painfulness and earthlings know it.

Believing earthlings say like, you die and you go see God. He or She, the couple, they happen to come around, but they are not always here, the Haven After, where you come to bay after your mortal body dies. The couple are free to be wherever they want, not only Heaven, and your soul may have to go elsewhere, if rejected from here, the Haven.

Oh, and the earthlings to say God could be only male. The belief cannot change anything about the After. God is a He or a She, and they are a couple. It is not a secret, it’s an anecdote Gods affirm, part He was creating Her, and She was creating Him, for their incarnation and kids to be real souls.

God’s judgment? It comes to it only sometimes. People usually confirm own pragma. But if not, He or She comes and interacts with you, nothing violent. Until then, you stay at our bay, comfortable. If you lie to induce the process, you go to a worse cradle, cradle worse than you would have gone without trying to abuse the way. Or even the mists, you go. But if it turns out your pragma has been violated, and you’re not guilty of anything major in our terms, you can stay here, free way and next door with Heaven, or in Heaven straight.

Earthlings say “Oh my God” so often, and our simple question is, if earthlings suppose God is like police surveillance to hear all those. However to expect of the police to be handsome, most people wouldn’t like the police surveilling them literally anywhere. Privacy is normal also around here, in the Haven. And if you talk to yourself like that, we obviously would ask if you could create such a whole lot: universes, cosmoses, stars, planets, — in unstable really, partible matter. Such works require wisdom. Who is it you address, saying “Oh my God”?

Earthly showing intimate intercourse happens to be really far away, for earthlings to have been created in “Gods image”. Gods made love.

That also happened on Earth, a woman was married at church, “in the face of God” as they say (przed Bogiem), and she was later procured sexually to serve a military leader; Poland Ms. Walewski for Napoleon. Nothing to do with Gods making love, needless to say. Polish leaders wrote her a letter to invoke her first son, he had been taken away from her — “as a mother”, they said, they wanted her to appease a foreign emperor — imagine, such a primitive threat! Plus, she would have had no money from her so-called husband, should she have refused to follow the suit, and she never got to see her son. Her given name was Maria, so some around here think it might have been Polish earthling attitude about Gods. Kind of spit, long distance. She wrote all she’d done was just for the country; and it was not possibly all her land.

We have never asked anyone French, how they would feel about it, such sacrifice to be in bed with a French, but well, it wouldn’t be best of humors.

Some Polish are vulgar about even an idea for a cradle, whereas nobody’s keeping you in. They’d had a Judas Cradle on human private parts! We wouldn’t be much welcoming these here, but still, there are the Cats. Most people wouldn’t go the Cats. Anywhere you see a shape for mortal remains, it is an inferno. This Cat in the outer space has a shape for a skull. Orti wanted us to show, more than a thousand years from now. But those Polish are inferior, aren’t they? Private parts?

Poland anyway has proven a “cursed country”. Feudalism to the extreme, three partitions, two wars, no democracy for real. Nobody around here would move their little finger to help such mentality, whatever the Polish hoped for at World War II Bzura, riding on horseback against tanks: that we would help them spit long distance? Briefly before that time, they were sort of nationally divagating if rape existed, since the animal creation had their impulses, and the Polish called the divagation science.

Our cradle is not physiological. You want to, call it a ship; it’s only way too big for your ocean.

What the physical people from other planets are truly ashamed about at times; maybe desperate too: it is an eternity of being a human soul, and it could feel good, but not with earthling liturgy as hypostasis to say, “the true son of God”, as this is what “the only begotten one” means on Earth, right? What is now historic in the After too, hypostasis meant a sedimentary deposit on Earth, especially in urine, earthly synonym for “bollocks” too, however to interpret the story of six hours up the cross that mentions bladder control. It’s a scandal around here; do earthlings think a son of the Almighty exposed himself to anything like this? Do they think He would have peed down the cross just to save earthling mortal bottoms?

With things as above, we happen to get frustrated. With things as below we might feel a bit angry, so we altogether don’t look to Earth often, especially some places.

The Polish crowned the Hesus along with his mother, Maria in Polish, king and queen of Poland cotemporaneous, like a classic Freudian stunt on a couple where the son is Oedipus. In all history of monarchy, if you’re king and queen at the same time, you’re a couple of mutual sexual expectation. People who failed to meet the tradition had to face a sad earthly fate, as Ann Boleyn, or Elizabeth I.

I say stunt, because Oedipus didn’t know Iocasta was his mother. She was just an attractive female, to many other men too. Freud speculated Oedipus would have fancied his mother, or maybe Freud fancied his? He spent hours trying to find ringworm genitals; kind of mania, he sure was not a normal guy, whereas for the professed story, Hesus knew his mother was Maria, and it could be exaggerated to assume people hold it for religion that Jesus fancied his mother Mary. Well, at least we’re putting psychoanalysis in daylight.

At Jasna Góra, Maria is the queen of Poland, not “Queen Mother”; president Duda attended the crowning of Hesus for the king of Poland, the name from Iudea for Christ son of Mary, the Maria.

Some say, the name Jesus is an imperial Latin development; the Roman empire changed their spelling and that’s how you got the word shape Jesus. Himself, he would have been Hesus; a local guy, he would have said that was his name; he would have reacted to someone calling for Hesus.

To think the shape in sound and the name, the spelling would be Iesus today and not Jesus, as the ordinance by the Roman empire to change spelling generally had it, and that was after Nasarenus’ death. You still have those INRI inscriptions on crosses, interpreted Iesus Nasarenus, Rex Iūdaeae, though I wouldn’t expect the aeae of a Roman soldier, however Wikipedia could.

Common sense and in short, the letter I represents a vowel. It sure preceded the non-vowel J in language chronology, so you’re always on the safe side, if you don’t have J in you Latin-origin spelling. You’re not patterning after the imperials. Italians don’t have the J, and we think their long-term is right.

They say Rex Iudeorum on Earth? To be king of the people and not of the country… Ancient Roman soldiers maybe didn’t have much faith, but there hasn’t been anyone to go for such distinction in human history, people without a country or a country without people, for honor. Latin has always been a kind of two-way sense. “Rex Iudeae” is the most likely form, but it can connote that the country and people kind of “possessed” him, it’s the grammatical possessive, some call it genitive. Everyone is free to know that it was not to a good end, but those Roman soldiers weren’t reporters on local feelings. They recognized distinction. The Latin would be as Rex Poloniae, more or less. That country name was Iudea.

Today, there are no earthlings willing to become as the Christos, are there? On ends good or bad… The description on his final way is really terrifying, everybody agrees around here. If this story would be to comment on Gods, their having incarnated to have kids, the comment would be very unfair. They loved each other and wanted kids, that’s all. We really respect it, though there’re no volunteers here to incarnate; but well, our personal comfort is extremely better in comparison with the physical world. Gods had a lot of support and their own inventions to live that, so you could imagine someone healthy, really rich, and comfortable as possible, nowadays on Earth: you wouldn’t say their living is below dignity, would you? Because they have to defecate? It is a contingency. She had no morning nausea or pain with labor, and no, they’re not starting a dynasty, if this is the question. You can have kids in democracy, right? Their kids are all about freedom and esthetics, beauty and invention.

Oh, and the trivia… They exaggerate on Earth today, if they spell IVDEORVM; that spelling was many years before, and it was for stone inscriptions, whereas those ancient soldiers certainly never carved the INRI in stone. The letter shape “u” was well in use in the time of the Christos. I doubt himself, the ancient teacher would spell it that way. It would look like ancient Romans hated his ideas even before he emerged on Earth, and predicted him on the cross with writing in stone. The people, the folk in ancient Rome, they didn’t hate the teaching. Most people had it for a take-it-or-leave-it; coercion came with the church, earthlings seeking influence over earthlings.

By the way, in the Middle East on Earth they believe Mary Magdalene was wife to the Hesus, and she knew Greek. Many people, not only foreigners, kind of inserted “i” to render there was a sound before “e”, whereas themselves they didn’t have that “throaty gliding h”. Hesus or Iesus, you see. Some call it shibboleths.

If you tried to say “i” and “e” one right after another — for English, you could try “ee” right before “ae” — you’d produce [y] as in “you” in between, so that’s why in many languages you have the “j” spoken as [y] is in English, all that owing to some late empire. Yes, you can compare German. If you make your speech like for [y] and just exhale, you’re going to articulate native German “h” as you could hear it in the word “Kirche”, a church.

The speech sound “h” has made quite some career on Earth, owing to temple pronunciations, but it does not mean that Germans borrowed it from Iudea. Most likely it was the other way round. It was the temple to seek exceptional sounds, maybe they even hoped to make them “unearthly”. Traveling monks have been more of reality than Earth would report. Some earthlings say “h” like to thaw frost; this happens to be pleasurable.

You know this rumor about the Dutch? It’s humor here, mild I believe, they must have demoralized Germans somehow in the Middle Ages, for Germans to abandon the Proto-Germanic comprehension for the word shape “mist”. Maybe Germans were beginning to use sprays and that was envied, but anyone Dutch we ask around here, they say they don’t have this kind of memory. We believe them, because there’s some polarity also in Irish.

What if Poland stops existing? Latin is the only thing to remain really, of ancient Rome. The Polish language may well be all to remain of Poland, if the country does not make sense. Napoleon time, the Polish army was in number same as in year 2000: they needed abuse on a woman, as to procure Walewska for Napoleon, to fight for their country? Regarding geo-form, landscape you know, there are steppes too, and some do say overtly around here. I could agree with them, it looks even cynical, the Hesus was crucified by the Roman empire and today it is the imperial spelling from a time even after his death that he’d be named, more, “married to his mother”? Then, you say you’re a follower of that Christos, quite Greek in origin for the name, and you procure a woman “in the face of God”?

What would an earthly Tom say if you called him Dom and wanted to “borrow” his wife? In no way could that be the regular way, and we don’t understand why make all the exception about God.

If Poland does not care to be viable, I am not going to fight for it either, especially against the opposition here, in the After. The opposition makes sense. If earthlings maybe hope to provoke us, there’s no way. We’re not going to risk our relationship with Gods, and He or She wouldn’t be provoked. You want to, ruin your soul as well. We are not going to save you.

The Polish have another strange ceremony, Gloria Victis, glory to the vanquished or the losers if you like, and they hold it for religious. Their Latin is sure irreligious, for published definitions as 3a here. We never really spy on Earth, but it looks some Southern Confederate idea, a forlorn thought.

You may lose a battle; it does not mean your thought is dead, or that you’ve been conquered in your mind. Even bodily death is not spiritual demise. To deny this, is to deny religion.

Saying victus, you grant the opponent more fame than they would have claimed in combat. Why the glory?

Hopefully it is not law and order to have become the forlorn thought over there in Poland, with all the odd matter in the country. The ceremony was originally for pre-WWII police force.

Christian developments have brought some equivalence, I’d show you here, Miedno(ie) or Medeo, the Argonaut theme you could get so physically about Earth. Well, that’s how it is visibly carved, Cyrillic or Greek, and Methodius was a monk too.

“I served with the Polish, but I didn’t get to love them.”

What force?

The Luft.

I don’t love them either. They put up so much pretense about religion. Who’s supposed to believe they really think that? If they don’t, they only could be a bad joke. If they do, they’re doctrinaire madcaps, and the doctrine is Freud, hardly anything to do with Gods themselves, or with many regular people as well, as preference cannot be force majeure or diktat.

All people should ask themselves the question, could religion originally come from the sandy Iudea? For all Earth, God would have chosen dunes? True religion comes from God, not geography.

By the way, we really don’t understand why the Middle East don’t irrigate, whatever ancient Egyptians might have done practicing lenses all those millennia ago. Could you love a sandpit forever? Sand is nice on a beach, to holiday and have tourists. Terraforming works with simply autumn leaves, and you can begin with mangrove, no need to desalinate water, you just let some in.

If the Christos might have been an Orti, extraterrestrial… I doubt. They hate discomfort, and Earth is sort of rough in comparison with their habitats.

“Why haven’t you asked me my name?”

To make sense asking you that, I first need to tell you that your earthly name is your given name, and you have the right to choose your name here. It could be a bit early for that now, most people take at least a while around.

Languages? We have all since the beginning of time, anywhere. Polish too, of course. Naturally, nobody talks the Gyptian glyphs, but those were to make believe the Sun demanded hops. The jolly shine doesn’t like beer, or whatever it is to show imperfect for inter-reaction, if you try putting a glass of beer out into sunshine, for a while on Earth.

If you know how to go about it, language is a source of intellectual pleasure, simply in itself. Like on Earth you can have pleasure to come from your corpus or limbs, language can give pleasure in the head, and here too, we can have that pleasure in our minds. though we don’t have bodily heads as on Earth. We’d never rid of our mind pleasure, so we have language sometimes where you’d say on Earth it is not necessary. Except physically absolutely void, language is not difficult, so we don’t read translations unless for esthetic pleasure, and this pleasure is highly valued.

You can progress intellectually here, but it’s not true that all thought like earthly would be wrong. If the thought is good, it is good also here, like Aristotle. Intellectual progress is progress for the soul too, but we do not practice sending books to Earth. Aristotle’s always in for Eliaia, the festival of light, quite a people’s fella.

No, we don’t have prostitutes here. The walk of life remains a good thought in the After. Aristotle loved his wife, so why is it you ask?

Forgiveness… No, we don’t impose forgiveness. First, you’re never required to live beyond yourself. Bodily hurt when you were human, you don’t have to forgive it after you die. When you were man, you were man with your body. Living here in the After, people are people, and let us be honest, if someone does harm to you, you don’t like them and you don’t want them in your life; you don’t necessarily care to forgive them and suffer their presence anymore. Cradles don’t issue tickets; they don’t “fish” for people on Earth or anywhere, so you don’t really have any such trouble as having to forgive, to get to a good cradle. In good cradles they say, there’s always the objective value of what you do, and no forgiveness could change that.

“Is it you could be forgiven for bad choice in life, as having been a prostitute?”

If you had a prostitute, you’re not likely to meet her here, in our cradle. To go that way, the prostitution way, she knew what she was doing. And to sell her body, she’s not respectful, whatever earthling sentiments could be on that matter. If her pragma could clear from that? I don’t know. Do you mean a prostitute would take up thousands of years hard work to improve? Such is objectively the value of such a path. It is thousands of years to improve. Not even all slaves of antiquity did that, and they were really coerced.

If you have become fond of a prostitute, think if she would take all the effort for you. There have been cases as forced procurement on Earth, we agree, dishonorable to any army to have taken the offer, but the simple argument is, other women opposed and suffered, also injuries, and any bordello would have gone bust with such “recruitment”, so we agree all people are created equal, but this does not mean all absolutely are, in ways of life. If you want to say your country and state is a bordello, be your own publican; come forward.

“How is it taken for dishonor?”

If you use a service to force a woman, it is below dignity for a man; and likewise, women around here never would see male slavery for a privilege. But those worths and values happened to be on Earth too.

Our money game happens to be funny to explain to people from Earth, if you have one million dollars or ten million dollars, it is the median to tell what the money is; the median is what the money can buy. People from Earth are like, oh no, one million is one million, ten is ten. But you could buy bread for some cents some time on Earth, early twenty century. Later, bread never was less than a dollar. One million or ten millions, which is the value? True green. We have a money game for those who like the idea of money, many people do and play the game. Buying or selling is exchange of tokens; on Earth probably too, unless you’d think about having it all, the goods in the market. We don’t, and that’s how we get our median. Bread is one token; a dollar is the other.

Yes, we can eat, sort of, but we don’t have the mortal gut. Many people do not imagine a good place to live without possibility for bread, the morning fresh crust. We can have the taste and feel of it, and after, our matter cancels; it is much like eating, we only don’t have metabolism in earthly sense, so we don’t need the loo. On Earth you have to eat, so your priorities are different. We don’t really need all the gut work. All we care is the pleasure of taste. Bread is taste and sharing, around here.

If you compare earthly tales, Barmecide, the shape of the word has barm, the bosom, and cessation, -cide. We have all the impressions of eating, only what we eat cancels in our bosoms. Funny thing, you could eat all the time around here and never get fat. But most people become absolutely selective on taste.

And the money game is a game. For example, when Betty brought the median down with his real estate mass movement, Doc refused the hydropower deal. They were negotiating the median almost directly. Then Axel supported print houses with commodities, revenue. Doc adapted, acquiring habitats. It is not territorial expansion, around here. All in all, Tom bought a house he liked for 10 thousand. Lower real estate is not a disaster when you have industry.

To say on Earth good dollar comes with real estate, it is expensive. But earthlings still have that expensive idea, because individually some gain. Good economy is good turnover in fact. The name “dollar” truly comes from “talent”. Jonah said we let minimum income, everybody in the economy has some cash. Commodities soared, industry made a boom. Print housing reduced problems with health and crime, so the game government did not cost all the lot. You have it on Earth, housing that could be as printed, the build takes maybe a few days.

In our enacted reality, minimum income was granted provided the person wanted to keep his or her slate clean, and of course, you didn’t allow abuse on integrity, so people didn’t get pushed to things. More, Sash introduced legislation, people were allowed to participate in the government for a year or two, voluntarily. Most were interested in the “brush off”, got familiar with governmental matters, and then it was really just a registry, to do the administrative detail.

You’re never going to be the After on Earth, but with computer print of goods you may become closer on economy, to consider the median. Josh said, I don’t understand why a mansion I don’t even care to buy should decide the worth of my dollar. I want my house print made, laid with the ground I like, the shape I sleep well.

I hope you understand, Egyptian pyramids look mad to us in Afterlife. Why build the Egyptian whole lot, if it’s a mortal life? Egyptians obviously were not much in the know, to mummify mortal remains.

Marriage? No, there’s no Heaven, haven or cradle to decide mating, but we have the saying too, that marriage is made in heaven, because people happen to meet and stay together here real long, and if they part, there’s not the bitterness you happen to have on Earth, with all the legality over speculated heirloom and such. It’s widely rumored that Thomas Paine and Amelia Earhart are not neutral, you know, in traveling cradles together, and guess what, how they hooked up: they joked on their bodies having gone to pieces on Earth. Yes, we have intimacy, it happens to be described in terms favorable over the experience on Earth, the union in form so to speak, but that’s why it’s intimacy. We keep it private. Mark Twain stays with his wife.

“People might feel like committing suicide, to get to the After.”

You’re never supposed to commit suicide to join here. If you are self-destructive, we may ask you to take another trajectory, so to speak, go away from here. You also shouldn’t have yourself terminated by other people, “take the trip”, “join the expedition” and such. It is only if you are not viable anymore, like medically qualifying for euthanasia, and you have not caused your condition, that we let you in.

If there is Hell… If you go to another cradle, your afterlife creative abilities may be limited, and at the same time you know there are better cradles. People happen to change, like reform in themselves, to get to to a better cradle. We are strictly a non-intervention policy, on Earth, other planets, and cradles After as well. You could create a reality here to experiment with ideas about Hell, but again, you would not have the pragma to extend that anywhere.

The Sun and stars? You can choose from a lot more, around here. People who like sunrise, can choose to have it everyday where they live. Some live under noctilucent clouds, and some under flowers. It is not like the phrase on Earth, to say you’re casually buried. Those flowers are luminescent conches and petals that hang from above and change in color and light during “night” and “day”, however you set them.

Auroras and the Second World War? Right, they were over Germany too. Well, this here is to talk probability, before we choose, and you choose, on joining our cradle. I can tell you the hearsay. It was a radio beam from Earth, somewhere South America, or maybe even Chile precisely, to induce the auroras.

Today we sometimes think earthlings might actually prefer not to do things as in the pictures here, but as we’re under the non-intervention, we’re not going to say or do anything.

We really don’t intervene on Earth or in the Solar System, God’s principle, and life here’s so good that nobody would cross the line. That’s why the language was Portuguese, the hearsay is. If God wanted to communicate in Portuguese, God wouldn’t have chosen illiterate peasant kids. People here, we all lived somewhere, had to die to get here, and honestly, nobody understands why, if there would be an expectation we intervene.

For you, the deal would be, you come in and live for some time, see how you like it, then we tell you if you’re OK to stay forever. You can always refuse; it would be just ridiculous to expect a declaration from you whereas we wouldn’t be ready to accept you, or you wouldn’t want to stay.

There were earthlings some 40 thousand years before; again, theory is, they got to play with the Sun too much, so there’s the “missing link”. The Sun really is a jolly shine, provided you don’t mishandle. To explain this at a symbolic level, you have the swastika and the Hindu Valley, whereas they both just disjoin the Greek pattern. We don’t do this.

It’s the knead.

Some say, they don’t know Portuguese, but oxygen definitely belongs with that parting type of matter, that’s how you get the heavy water. There’s no oxygen of this sort here, so how could you see “a great sea of fire” about afterlife? There’s no combustion without oxygen, on Earth and quite around. The Sun is not a burn, it’s a fusion of sort. Well, whatever you say in Portuguese about gathering up blood and sprinkling anyone. We don’t imagine anything as barbaric going on here. It’s probably some earthling behavior.

Earthling earning credit with us? No such behavior would earn you credit here. You don’t really have to be credited with anything; to get in, just be yourself. God gave people freedom. Sometimes it is sad to see what earthlings do with their freedom, but we here have been spending time the way we like, and we are certainly able to do this forever; many don’t even care for time. Everyone develops a lot of distance to earthly experience, as once you get to know existence without the physical body, memory of it would feel like bound and tied, and many people say, heavy.

“I feel I do not feel”, says the soldier.

“You got yourself a real feeling there”, says Chatty.

There’s not any guarantee you’d be accepted here, or your family, or acquaintances, or friends. Everybody’s considered an individual. But you’re never held here, we don’t have prisons; so if we follow an earthly verdict beyond mortal lifespan, it is the convict voluntarily staying. Most people kind of isolate right after arrival, but maybe I tell you later.

On some earthly verdicts, we differ. If you committed something owing to infringement on your integrity, we may consider the matter gone. So, for verdicts on people sent to colonies because they stole bread, they are innocent here. On Earth, you have to eat, whether you know what “antipodes” means or not.

Earthlings do not even agree on the commandments. The one to say Thou shall not kill is interpreted as Thou shalt do no murder, in Matthew. The latter is right, self-defense is no sin, but then, the ancient Hebrews never got it right, and they said it was in touch with God they were then. God would eat sacrificial animals or smell the smoke, either. The Hebrew belief that God would have killed every firstborn is interpreted here in the After as their statement on character, their own. You’d need to change from this belief, to be let in here.

Or, self-immolation. Earthlings should have intuition enough to expect that Gods favored the human shape. To burn your body is to make it miserable gloom, and that’s hardly forgiven in the After. You go to worst of cradles, to ask admittance, or you end up where pragma is unshaped; right, like some Nazis. Both actually have breached on the human shape, if you want to view things in such a light. It’s been millennia for some people, but they are still there; nobody to get them out.

If someone makes it look like you’ve burned yourself? We don’t oversee Earth anyway; told you, there’re so many things to do around. Well, imagine a tree on the inside; it has rings and lines; the kind of watermark pragma shows those, and gives us a picture. An ugly soul you’d have given to yourself, burning your body; same, if you’d burned someone else. I’ve seen your soul, and this is why the deal for you is, as is. You can come live for some time, try things if you like. Your soul is pretty fine.

If overseeing Earth would do any good? Well, then you’d have earthlings calling about their want of power. Do you know ho many people play with Ouija boards every day? We guess we’d have to make a department. Fortunately it’s just toys. Oh, for people seeking contact with the dead like Benjamin Franklin wrote, he made a deal with his friend the other would visit in case, and he didn’t, to the fact, there’s hardly any possibility. It’s not like the people don’t care, after they’d gotten on with the new life After. “Like with a swoosh”, I quoted an earthling narrating near-death. It’s part a physical process, to get out of the physical universe, and it’s quite some endeavor, to try being in the partible matter again, once you’ve departed.

Most importantly, you need to able to live on your own in the After, unsupervised, so people to demand attention kind of can’t qualify; we don’t occasion that, any dependence on extrinsic factors. If earthlings had been brought up in affirmed belief it is a higher power to resolve and manage, we’d be blamed.

What earthlings hardly learn in mortal life… In the After, you cannot knock someone, physically push them. Your existence depends on your mind and power to persuade, if you interact.

If partible matter is the same as mortal matter? To an extent. But if one sun star collapses, new might be emergent. The mortal or partible matter may renew, in a different physical arrangement. The physical world might go on more or less forever, just not the same spots would be shining.

If we have ever intervened? Yes, about another cradle. We’re quite strong, we’re only not boastful. For that cradle, we were successful. Some might say, of course. But we never get into the matters of the physical world, God’s commendation. We follow because we trust God. God’s simply never wrong. Rumor is, it started with earthling ark of covenant to hit other earthlings, that God left Earth to itself. The later earthly thing, about a human freely choosing to become crucified, did not help: what would your earthly adjectives be? We know it would have been a lot of physical pain. And if that human being did not make a free choice, the earthly story would tell about the only biological descendant of God Almighty to be celebrated on Earth as a victim, for a kingdom, politics. You realize that crucifixion couldn’t be the way a male would like a female to see him, and the claim is the Hesus was a human son of God. Of course, the picture would not help female looks either, however to think about being good-looking..

Think of me as a regular fella… This does not mean, think of God as a regular man, but no, there’s no way to get us intervening on Earth. Nobody already with WWII. Gods have never planned for their children’s death. and they are really strong, so they would have intervened, should one of theirs have gotten into trouble, but those haven’t even ever incarnated to travel the physical universe; the story is untrue and actually quite mad. We don’t intend to provide any vocabulary either, of course. Earth has been left to itself. You could tell by the history and developments.

UFO? You mean they come around, say nothing, and spring away? No point for yourself to panic about it, as you are never going to be back on Earth. Your body is dead. For Earth, it could mean the other people do not have a non-intervention policy. Obviously, they have some civics. To have space flight more advanced than Earth, they sure have remote ways to make observations too. To come around is a choice. To say nothing — a manifesto?

Earth can be a beautiful habitat, but Gods or their children rather, do not intend to incarnate on Earth, should they want to have offspring in turn. The physical other people have considered such a possibility favorably, so who knows. In simplest of words, there’s always a lot of goodies to come with Gods.

Devil and possessions? Gods incarnating does not require any “bodily takeover”. They created the biomatter, and they could even grow own DNA. You see, the soul kin is not in DNA really. The DNA is a mortal pattern. It is to beget a real soul, an entity capable of forever after. I don’t know if all earthly languages have the notion. All real relationship you can have with another soul depends on rapport in mind, kin in thinking, like in approach and language, and you can talk here in the After too. Gods have cared a lot about that, with their children.

Do they have to commit suicide to return to the After, or hang around a lot after their kids are born? They hanged around only as long as it took for the kids’ souls to acquire variables and left. They have power over the “swoosh”, so to speak. They can leave own body. The body dies then and decomposes, just as any biomatter. Gods have never wanted their remains preserved, as Egyptians did their mummies. Ancient Egypt would be a distant echo of events on another planet.

The body is always to be burned when abandoned by the soul, which is with every regard the same as mortal death. Dead biomatter is unhealthy. Mostly you wrap it up, to avoid anything awry during burning. To have proof Gods were there, the people received a seal and other memorabilia. Gods wouldn’t leave you with some talk to look illusion. Incarnated only once so far, and the people got their proof.

Regular humans don’t have the power over the swoosh, and you’re really not supposed to commit suicide to get to the After. It’s fuss, to be honest, a soul after suicide. It’s severed; it takes nannying; so if someone committed suicide for a reason, we usually research why and that never in a sense favorable to the soul place of origin (why give such reasons). And for no reason, you go another cradle. That’s it.

Well, Dante titled the Inferno having maybe premonition on how it is, to see there’s better, and to be sent away. Inferno comes from Latin, inferior. And we think motivation can be good.

If other cradles could be well, “bollocking Earth” and “playing the devil”… We are not a police force. Most we know is from voluntary living sources, the rest is written records as books, and I don’t know about anyone to have played the Hell. What we know about Earth, the technological advancement, there is electromagnetic analogy, RF, cloud computing, mind beams, melds and like, so it could be all earthly as well, the “devil” a physical projection of the motor cortex in vector space. You can also call it directional space. Usually it’s with permission from the territory military, because it’s easy to tell also on Earth, if someone makes directional space. You wouldn’t risk being discovered by ordinary anti-stealth or more.

And well, you don’t believe you must have a cord to talk on the phone, do you? “Visions” must be in a way physical, to influence a physical organ as the brain, so to take the “supernatural” label off, some people did get used on Earth, for “prophecies”. Did those used people notice? Did they cheat and pretend? Nobody can really judge, maybe except Gods, unless you let the people speak for themselves. Gods would let them speak. Cordless electrics can be physically quite painful, not only sonics, and such “gifts” could be on anyone. They’re physical channeling; a baker could “see” as well as a florist. Most people avoid the abuse on the brain; “compliments” as “you’re special” cannot change that. And it’s not unearthly to know about the physics, earthlings have a science festival for what we know, worlds-famous actually.

To talk probability, there are religions you don’t even get an idea as “evil possession”, and Anneliese Michel post mortem showed damage to her left temporal lobe, as to impede her brainwork. Could’ve been RF. All that is alive avoids the RF. We were not there at the time, but those radio frequencies are very visible to us, so those would be most likely earthlings trying to beguile other earthlings. To try “physical spirituality”, this is another thing we don’t really understand about Earth. True spirituality is non-physical. It’s not a guy showing a picture to a brain and then doing it, for stories of “real otherworld”.

An imposed image always would impede natural brainwork. There’s not any way for technology to become the live biological neural network a human individual has formed for oneself. And you do know you cannot be the real deal, don’t you? That’s why earthly “physical spirituality” looks dumb to us. We really don’t understand. Do you mean you’re never to come to terms with the After? You kind of have to, because human bodies are mortal, and it’s hard to believe you’d love a foggy nothingness as unshaped pragma.

We’d never impede the mind, you couldn’t need to be brain-injured or like, to believe in God; and we could skip rope with those radios, so it’s not an idea for mysticism with us either. In simple terms, we’re still quite ordinary people in the After, we wouldn’t tell even an ape there’s no banana, holding it in hand; the banana could be any object to draw attention, and well, bananas also happen to be bad. Such use of physics is primitive abuse on spirituality, we think. Charles Whitman had necrosis in his brain, and that usually comes with physical trauma. Well, without change to the skull bone, if a hammer could do?

School shootouts. To go to school, write a diary, get a gun, kill people and shoot yourself in the head: I note, a decent autopsy is not welcome, as with Whitman case. Exaggerated all the whole lot, for a human simply to dislike classmates. And a diary? — Oh Sartre, we could not be natural? I think it’s been earthling activity.

RF could serve an earthly regime, control over its use is obviously above individual powers, so it cannot possibly provide for freedom. Funny thing about freedom, it’s never above individual, to be true.

We don’t require coping beyond yourself. Sometimes, I think earthlings don’t even realize how easy it is to live without a regime; and how much better it feels. There’s also no way to hold God captive and use him, like the primitive early Jewish thought on the ark.

The ark was all physical, and the covenant was deflection of sunshine. The people didn’t understand there is another reality. To them, “reality” meant “earthly”, “material”. You can’t travel to Heaven in earthly physical shape; your shape would fall apart. But you have your individuality and this can last forever. This teaching has been on Earth for millennia: it’s in you, it’s yours, Tao or Plato. You can call it an atomos, any way you like. With this, you can get into Heaven, visa-free from here. It is really all the way impartible. This is reality too.

For most of human existence, the After is the more important reality. It lasts much longer. Biological life is some 100 years, let us say. If you care for yourself. The After is actually forever. Probably you’d be surprised with earthly reality, if only you’d be able to see life as a newborn again. You were newborn once, on Earth. In the After, you come to new reality for the second and last time.

I could agree, it’s a kind of paradox, but in earthly terms. What you have for solid matter on Earth is all subject to decomposition. The most durable and pragma on Earth are people’s souls, but people would not recognize the fact and try to use God for earthly purposes, as territorial expansion.

Politics? Not in any sense to work on Earth. Why is it you have a government, on Earth: because you have the tax office, and one for foreign affairs. Our non-physical universe has neither. We can have discussion clubs, forums or agoras, but we never fall ill, don’t have crime, nothing’s ever on fire or under a natural, that is, physical disaster, and money is a game, because we can create on our own, so we don’t need, and do not have a government. It would be attempted imposition, for a guy to come round and say he or she does taxes for us.

If souls could be “material” in the sense of utility? There would be a lot cheaper and easier ways to create and build, than using anything as a “soul pragma”. It is the pragma individual particle to attach to the soul, it is not like souls would be a type of pragma; you couldn’t have “soul building bricks” or anything of the sort. Souls are souls. By cheap, I mean something not to require much effort, as the money is a game. “Cheap” is favorable appreciation around here, because you can always have good quality. To compare the thing with Earth, it’s how to do a gold nugget in best of ways: cheap is good; cheap is really smart. I don’t know about any such expensive projects around here; trying to use a soul for building material would be so counter economy and sense. And how do you get volunteers? You can get much suspicion from Earth, but there is never any question if this could make sense.

For someone with creative powers, earthlings would need to understand, you don’t strive to have; you choose what you want to have. The universe is for free, isn’t it? Couldn’t have been anyone to strive for means from lease, to give it. Admittedly, earthlings do not pay rent for the planet. “Rich” is earthly. “Able to create” is forever.

If this all has been because Gods need company? They like good company, but they never summon. Capable of immersive existence, they do not need anyone then. There are people who like them, so “need” is not the right word; it’s behaviorist. “Tell me about a better deal”, was a joke on there being nothing better than their creation and routes. Oh, we’re quite free here to talk, we don’t have to linger to chair legs or pedestal cloth. It’s enough we give justice, we don’t make mad suspicion. So, tell me about a better deal, if you can. And we don’t have to sing in a choir.

Immersive living is what a soul can too, it’s not only God power, just the extent is different. Gods, they really can exist even if nothing of all a human soul knows, was; no human soul knows God perfectly or the way God knows oneself, but well, man knows oneself best for preference. Coercive behaviorist experiments are considered a vulgarity here. Gods don’t dictate on preference, though both are wise and know the act of creation well.

Are they boss? They are immortal entities of immense intellectual capability. There’s not any chair to say “boss” here, but it’s natural that some matters are theirs to decide. Their children got other matters, and so on.

Oh, that. Gods’ve been in practice happily married. You know the stories on yin and yang. They have been together since time immemorial. They are partners in mind, intellectual; the strongest of relationships. We don’t know if Egyptian myths reflected on this with their sexual representation for funerals: “you go join them, another gender”? Well, she’s really pretty, and God never has demanded sex. Immortal, but regular He and She, they’ve looked real faithful, by the way, should you take the Egyptian intuition wrong. On Earth, you’d probably never believe how long entities may want to stay together, but they say, all in all, you act the same with many different people, or you’re variable with one.

Yes, she’s comfortable and well-off; it’s manly to have things the way, and God would be manly and as strong in himself as for her to create too. Only weak males suppress females, being weak in own masculinity. These Gods have been happy together, lasciate ogni speranza voi ch’entrate, so to speak, no way to “pick up” God. Let me show you a picture, Kimberley Australia. The original picture on the rock shows two feet: you may think about the image upside down.

On the right, She Sits After Work, you could say, her apron to show her accomplished, and her rings to show her a Creator. The big rounded shapes would be cosmoses, each to have room for two universes, like the one we’re in. You’re with me in the non-physical universe now. I’m not very literate at these general schematics, but the cosmoses all could become aligned, rumor is. She created a cosmos for every kid she’s had with him.

Wadjina Rock Art, Australia, Wikimedia
She Sits After Work, draft picture

The rocks were worked with water, it’s no ordinary sculpture; and why — some earthlings have been prone to forgeries, falsifications. For example, it’s a regular matter around here, to talk a “Harvard dash” rather than Emily Dickinson “sloppy punctuation”. It’s like, earthlings hope to hide too much, because we know that the Harvard College issued “Proposals to the Reverend Ministers of the Gospel” for a collection of “apparitions, possessions and enchantments.” And now it’s them to hold those dashes. What a “coincidence”… Well, this happens to be laughed at, to be honest. Mabel wrote on witches and searched on sunshine. It could be a most outstanding cold case as well, like earthly police talk about such, had the poet been “passed away”. It took a lot of courage to admit you’d read Thomas Paine in his time too, noted Mark Twain. Maybe they were just jealous about the Oxford comma, but that device is far from all-encompassing as well… I explain later.

Of course, for the technological progress on Earth, you don’t need to exhume anyone anymore. You can scan the location with the remains.

We know there’s no possibility for witchcraft really in a physical habitat as Earth. Paradox, but in earthly terms only, we’d let a “witch” in, not her prosecutor; those would have to get to know what it is to be inferior, actually. We don’t like the offense on common sense. Can you really imagine you say a “magic” word and physics follows? Like voice-directed software? Earth is not software. The accusations always were lies. And the so-called “witches” mostly were literate women to deny a favor they never would have been bothered about with a higher financial standing. If you’re honest on matters and life, you easily guess. Some earthling men have an awkward idea about intellect; like intellect would be a thing to appease, well, lower parts. We even can’t have such types in here.

A woman told me, if only they’d skip to that stage after, on Earth, after they’ve had a woman. Then they go about another, and you’re free from them. She laughed. Without counting me in, she added. She was really so unhappy about the men, and she was not lesbian. None made intellectual rapport. None felt for her. But she was supposed to think for them a little at least, as it was uncanny, according to her contemporaries, for a woman to live independently. By the way, if you compare stats for domestic violence on Earth, nobody gets any sense. Why shouldn’t she have lived on her own? Could go without saying, between our Gods never has been violence. They are not violent. They are kind of loved a bit, for their generosity and balanced ways.

There are pictures that don’t look genuine in Australia too, as these below that show a party. Could be old, but not the real matter. Could have been patterned after other paintings. No galaxy would wear the shirt, so to speak. The above were painted by primitive people to have been instructed by beings, the legend is. We have this mild sense of humor here, a cosmos is mapped on oneself, man or two universes.

Aboriginal Art, Wunnumurra Gorge

Naturally, of earthling predilections we’ve observed, we always remark that rock formations are genuine, but they are not messages, and the Creator, he or she, would not be exhibitionist. Just our training.

Every cosmos is a multiverse, physical and non-physical. Oh, I explain, “more than one” is “multi” to talk Creator powers, because you have to predict on multiple effects. There is no physical duality singly to hold: sounds absurd enough in words, not to be tried for real in physics. It was noted in ancient times on Earth, “more than one”, also as “two”, is “multi”. In a cosmos of two universes, you live with multiple possibilities. No one lives parallel. Some people happen to be similar in looks, not so much in the soul, and the physical similarity is just a biogenetic statistic, as on Earth. You don’t have to love anyone, to stay around. It’s welcome for you to love yourself. It’s for eternity, after all.

“For the straight-forward pathway had been lost”, translates Longfellow from Dante, and this is what the other physical people are about. Longfellow is literature, and they are for real. Their infinitude from non-existence can alter pragma routes, Earth-to-cradle. I know it looks a bit complicated for non-existence still to be of role in the physical world, but this is the way the universe works, and it means souls from Earth would go dwell more or less nowhere, for a really long time, and the other people in afterlife would not have to suffer the opinion about humans. The opinion is not altogether good or high, because of Earth. All criticism goes back to Earth, human culture and worship. Our policy is not to intervene, as God commended not to intervene. Do you agree?

“Yes, I do”, says the soldier.

For the physical process, Earth is not able to prevent the infinitude, do you understand? There’s nothing you could do, or anyone on Earth, or a satellite could do. The physical other people have the true Argonaut. Yalta was codenamed, wasn’t it?

“I do understand. Is there anything to tell it’s happened, that infinitudes altered pragma routes?”

I’ve never been on Earth. Physically, there could be alteration in color spectra, but that also could depend on how deep in the cosmos you look.

“Could it be undone?”

The routes are individual, so for some people, over some time, there’s not going to be any undoing, unless some really skilled entity comes get them out, but there have not been examples. If the other people succeed, “eternal sleep” may become one of those “self-fulfilling prophecies”.

You can sleep in the After too, so there’s nothing you’d gain with the “eternal sleep”, whereas you can have activity and fun in the After. If the infinitude got stopped, some other souls would be back on track, so to speak; but those already sidetracked would remain nowhere, unless someone from the After devoted his or her time to get them out. It’s a pragma process, so we don’t know if there would be volunteers, and God does not really care to be offended.

It might be the other people are trying to get the planet for themselves. Their argument would be that earthlings are not cognizant enough to keep it. If God agrees, they will take it. They say, there is no point having more and more souls coming after the same pattern. On earth, people even say a soul is a feudalist subject! A bonded peasant! And I agree, why have afterlife for an act of mercy.

About Antiquity, it was observed, some earthlings had all those plenty of battles to die fast, and for that not to be suicide. But they were, well, incognizant coming here. Paulus was right, not committing suicide, and he was right recommending Nazi surrender rather than suicidal strife.

The mortal body begins decomposing 4 minutes after death. There is not really resurrection to that. This is why our time window was so narrow, for you to be back into your body on Earth. God himself incarnated to get along with the biomatter he’d created.

“Did she create biomatter too? Is earthling Creator a female?”

They created biomatter together. On your question about earthling God, I was instructed to tell you, stay with what you want to believe for the time you consider necessary for yourself to adapt, if we choose, and you choose to stay over here.

Why should God have so much patience? Earthling imagination for God comes from primitive writings, and those patterned after primitive warlords. Gods truly never had any part in that. They created some of cosmoses for the love of their children. The two Gods loved their children and created cosmoses to celebrate, I hope you understand; so they would be patient and understanding for that sake, but to an extent, of course.

“What happens if I choose to stay; will I have to believe your story?”

No, you never have to believe, because we don’t hold anyone. But on creator being author, we are never equivocal. We show you evidence, proof. If you decide to believe otherwise, you will be free to leave. Neither He nor She would be denied their credit. It’s important around here, to keep that basic respect. People happen to deny, go other cradles, and then they want back. We tell them, you could, but please mind the honor the Creators deserve. If She created your world, and you have been showed proof, acknowledge that. She deserves to be respected. Her cosmoses are not inferior in quality to His. Maybe she added a little color to robin eggs, but it never impeded the birds. You know, women.

“What happens if the non-physical gets kind of filled, and you don’t feel like new souls?”

Well, then the physical life would become stopped, the closest to good natural death, as I’ve told you, or maybe it’s even a better way to die than natural death, because you don’t have distress or pain at all. The Apocalypse, it never would be a battle. Earthlings and other physical world would die the best old death, no pain, no anxiety, all souls would come here first, and the non-physical would be expanded into the entire cosmos, and then it would not need expansion anymore. This is what “lifting” or “dropping the veil” means. The border between the non-physical and physical would be dropped or lifted, and the non-physical would take all the cosmos.

Like you saw about the “needles”. All people in the physical universe would fall asleep, die, come to the After, and this border marked in the picture here would be gone. The physical universe would stop existing. For Earth, it is anyway some time only, before Andromeda, if nothing else happens earlier.

But the non-physical is nowhere near “filled-up”, and I don’t actually imagine it. Form makes room, shape may fill it. I know it’s difficult to comprehend to minds used to finitude, but that’s just the way it is around here, in the After. When you see it, you stop doubting it’s possible. There’re no plans to end Earth as such. What for? To be creating another planet?

“Do the people get a warning, as to get ready?”

Orti will know, via regular communications. The mortal life, there’s nothing to be much stubborn about. It is finite. Some people around here say that mortal life is a pre-existence, and some — I’m telling you because it is the truth — even say it is as fetal existence, like before you’re born on Earth, to compare the earthly post-natal and all the ability you have in the After. Some of them are Orti. On Earth too, you live only as the celestial womb allows. And then, everyone, anyway, comes here.

We don’t have communications with Earth, so it would amount to an intervention, to go there and tell people, more, to persuade them to accept the development. Most people around here say it would be best to just let earthlings fall asleep, without their fighting it, as this might cause distress.

We don’t intervene also for Orti, but they have made their circumstances much better than on Earth, having been aware of the After at the same time, so they wouldn’t even understand what you mean, as to require a “divine intervention”. All volitionally transcend to the After, and life there goes on smooth without ideas as interventions; it is an exception, if someone does not live 120 years of age. Earthlings who live on Earth now will be long in the After, before “the veil gets pulled off”.

“What if people drive vehicles and such stuff, when you turn your interference on. Wouldn’t that cause distress?”

The end of the physical universe would be the only context we may touch earthlings, influence them bodily. You would pull over or stop your work with machinery, upon sensory suggestion, wouldn’t you?

“That would take doing it in stages?”

Preferably at night, one night would be enough for Earth entire, most earthlings sleep then. We’d interfere earthly communications too, to prevent panic. We think our resolve is still better or actually much better than earthly visions of fire, battles against beasts, or disasters as in 2012, that movie. The entire physical universe shouldn’t take longer than two days, so there’s not going to be need for burial and such.

Orti will simply know when, so they are not going to be working or fighting the sleep, and the process with them might last about 10 minutes. They get their preparation with childcare already. Kids watch movies, artistic productions, or get books to choose from, any topic — all the authors having transcended. They get to understand that living in a body forever could not make them happy, after some 120 years definitely not. They get to see cosmic trinkets they can witness arranged with our After to emerge, so they know we are real.

Cue is their autumn festival; not every year, but we offer something spectacular. “The maple wears a grayer scarf, The field a scarlet gown. Lest I should be old-fashioned, I’ll put a trinket on.” Our communications also allow some contact too, so reasonably, there’s no suspicion we would be some powerful civilization to create structures in the physical universe and more, keep everyone under surveillance as to pretend their loved ones in casual and spontaneous conversation. The above is poetry by Emily Dickinson, of course.

To Orti, bodily life is more of a stage, without much philosophy. You do philosophy there only if you like it.

Orti say, earthlings mistake intellect for problems; earthling quotient is supposed to be at problem-solving, so you hardly can have it without problems, or so it looks from earthly works and lives; and on the other hand, earthlings don’t understand there’re aspects of mortal existence that matter also in the After. Earthlings would be either holding mortal matter the highest of all, or have it for something low altogether, and neither is really a worthwhile approach or a good way to spend your time. In short, Orti are not going to tell earthlings anything.

For example, it is not true that earthly Nero was an incarnate, but the fact there’s been such rumor at all speaks for itself: that he was an incarnate and so unhappy with bodily contingency. Mortal life is really not better than the After, and the truth is the earthling stole some Greek writings and failed to understand that as long as it lasts, souls become created and grow naturally in the physical world. Fun thing around here, it would be “neuro”, the human body, to do for most the devil on Earth. It’s not so bad, we think. Neurons are necessary, for a soul to come to be, start existing. They also say, you don’t have to be advanced as Morgan Freeman in time, to make sense in the After. And we like him. It is not true you should give up on thinking, just because the physical form is mortal. Thinking can last forever. Morgan Freeman has this good curiosity.

“Have they seen God?”

Both. It is difficult to explain, Gods have manifestations, they’re not the same as physical people. But they’re visible, if they like. I’ve showed you an approximation, souls already are mostly dynamic in shape, unless they want to be otherwise.

“Does it matter how old you are, when you die?”

No. Young or old, it is your Self to live forever. This is well, ageless. It is eternal. You can decide your shape. If earthlings had communications with the After, they could say, Balzac is transcended, Michelangelo is transcended, Aristotle and Plato of course too; everyone knocks on the cradle door; but this is just a rhyme, there is no literally door as on Earth around here. Well, earthlings don’t have the knowledge.

“Do earthlings get to know if their cosmos was created by a He or a She?”

No. All cosmoses could be aligned, free movement for everybody, so it is important that people recognize both possibilities for equally worthwhile. We don’t want vandalism in a He cosmos or a She cosmos. It is denial on the Creator we do not allow; if he or she, you are presented with proof in the After. But you do not have to hold gender for God, obviously. Orti allow both possibilities, He as well as She, for the Creator.

“Is it possible to rebel, in your cradle?”

Again, only an earthling would ask. We don’t have much policing or control, because the people here would not rebel without a cause, and there is no cause around. Well, how do you rebel, if there’s not a governing authority? Soul pragma is like watermarked, but it does not show on a regular basis, you make yourself a logo if you want things showing, and everybody knows, pragma watermark is all tracking that we allow. This is the way we care to keep things, not much control or policing. This is why we choose who we let in. We don’t want some “rebels without a cause”. In a universe that creates, you don’t need to throw off a government, to have change.

“How does the watermark work?”

Your body develops according to a blueprint. It is a bodily genetic code. Earthly religions embrace this with the act of creation. Your soul grows within your body and it has a matrix. You are your own witness, to say it in simplest of words. If a person injured another human being on purpose, for sadistic pleasure for example, though his or her own feeling about it could be good, their matrix makes a mark; but it would also show if the person were physically abused by other people. The watermark has three major areas, your regard for yourself, other people, and the world or still more broadly, existence. Activity overlap and viability, are important regards. Orti don’t have box, the sport, for example, but they have martial arts. Box happened to show close to self abuse, look at “Rocky Balboa” (source). The Decalogue is a vague idea on the matrix. You don’t have to worship your ancestors or parents, especially if they are not good to you. You can kill in self-defense or hunt animals. After all, you have to kill your vegetable too, to eat. Have you ever come across I Ching?

“It is probable that Leibnitz was trying to work it out. You mean six cosmoses, hex patterns about soul matrix?”

Good guess. Only you don’t need the multiplicity in notes that earthly math brings, and the hex is symbols. The creative heavens is the completeness. The kings were earthly rather than heavenly, but I think you’d better learn about that a bit later. Generally, earthlings have had it quite another way round, as usual, to make I Ching divination, rather than thinking of own self and soul.

The Decalogue is basically the ten sayings, and oldest extant copies are dated for 30 to 1 B.C., so it is much younger. Every saying is also a reading, so all earthly intuition has had that, wherever on the globe and of whatever tradition, that there is something it is possible to read from the soul. As far as I know, you can’t do it on Earth, but the phrase, Keep thy soul diligently, is words of wisdom, though much in this passage from Deuteronomy looks early and primitive man ideas about God, fiery and jealous (4.13:9). God has got nothing to envy.

The matrix, to talk earthly terms, is automorphic, where isomorphism is not as mathematical as on Earth; the Greek isos means same, and idios allows change. Life is not a fossil. The matrix never has been falsified. It would be showing like someone trying to pretend yourself to yourself, face to face, body and talk. You’d always tell yourself from another.

“Shouldn’t then the matrix remain a hidden truth, because people could live good lives on Earth and go bad only in the After?”

People are good when aware of the expectation. It is not difficult, to most humans, to live without raping or robbing anyone. More, in the After, especially if the soul has attained sovereignty, there’s hardly any way to do harm to him or her. They’re not susceptible to damage or unwanted change. And if people on Earth don’t know about the soul matrix, they care less, so it is harm to them, whereas it is not so difficult to explain: the body has own DNA, mostly everybody knows, and the soul, what do you think, is of no reference?

Read this from Thomas Paine,
There is a single idea, which, if it strikes rightly upon the mind, either in a legal or a religious sense, will prevent any man or any body of men, or any government, from going wrong on the subject of religion; which is, that before any human institutions of government were known in the world, there existed, if I may so express it, a compact between God and man.

How likely do you think the compact was some accord in characteristic, like a soul matrix? Thomas Paine does not depart from earthly standards of his time for religion. He says,
The first act of man, when he looked around and saw himself a creature which he did not make, and a world furnished for his reception, must have been devotion; and devotion must ever continue sacred to every individual man, as it appears right to him…

He says devotion, though he was critical of churches, but if you dig etymology, you get that devotion means, something authentic. He also says the spiritual is part in everyone individually, it can tell what is right. Benjamin Franklin had a plan for self-improvement. I do not know if either of the gentlemen would ever have used the word matrix, but bias about words is not the only difficulty with earthlings. People on Earth usually try things, even if they are not attainable. For example, if to tell them about the matrix, they might try reading or manipulating it of course, and worse still, use computers, whereas the hex is symbols, not the real thing.

You can’t read the matrix on Earth and in the physical universe altogether, because you are not spiritually sovereign, in your physical bodily existence. There are too many things that could influence you via the body, so you’re spiritually not “entire” as long as you live, but still you are capable of considerable spiritual and intellectual progress. All in all, it’s better to be like Franklin than try manipulation.

All in all and in short, without individual feelings, individual love especially, there is nothing to go on about Earth, be the love for man or for a pursuit, as language and art. What matters, if it is a real feeling. Otherwise, there’s nothing authentic. Love is never ideology. That is an empty idea.

Real love always selects; picks and chooses, for the best of own feeling. Real love brings beauty beyond the mortal body. Real love is never deviant. Real love is never devoid. Real love never abuses, to get. Real love never needs to suffer or inflict.

Interesting, if you look up Latin morphs, sav, sev, siv, and suv, of all vowels sov is not going to give you results, maybe except some Systema Logicae Minus, but that’s about the 17th century on Earth. The shape Y is a later development in Latin, so no result for -syv- is no wonder, but no -sov- is as color blue gone from Homer.

“Some people on Earth have theories that the sky wasn’t blue.”

And some are British, as those guys about big or small navies, and you’re not going to make a discovery to observe that color blue comes with oxygen and water in the atmosphere. Man always has breathed, and always has had bodily content of water, so there had to be about the proportion of oxygen and water, and — color blue.

Well, if you browse for “sov” in the Totius Latinitatis, the dictionary, you find of course the plenty of fish in the river Po (or river After), piscosove, and the sweetmeats confectioner, also called a panchristiarius. I’ve told you about the theories that ancient Romans experimented within their army range.

“Grand” and “rich” and “royal” are earthly associations, you don’t get to rule over others in the After. What there could be of relevance to the matrix and individual sovereignty: the summa rerum and sensus communis, the entirety and the common sense.

Romans perceived external and inner senses. The senses to regard impressions from outside the body were vision, hearing, smell, taste, and touch. The inner senses were two, the “imagine-making or representative power” (you could not have to be looking at a thing to be thinking about it), and the common sense that emerges with all senses coming together, however many after all you count today on Earth. This is the common sense that actually works with your matrix, in the three major regards as above. It does not matter if you choose to be irrational. It is a real sense; it belongs with life’s pragmatics here and there, so to speak.

A few words I’d say, they don’t come from Earth. Some are pragma, atomos, matrix. They are tell-tale of a multi-lingual civilization where people usually speak more than one language, so it happens two guys speak both and have a conversation. Our guess has been Orti, and they have admitted to Akrotiri. They are not blamed for earthly developments. Earthlings took up the way they did.

In the physical life on Earth, you cannot attain the entirety or completeness, the prerequisite for sovereignty. The completeness does not make you finite and it is not the sum of all things. It is your full potential. Emily Dickinson’s poetry has a sovereign swerveless tune, and sovereign barns, where you may like to look up Sophocles for the door, naturally mellow she was already on Earth. You see, for theories of elements and entities, infinity is the proper “element” to talk about a human soul.

Today earthlings can compare Pythagoras on music and harmony, tune and geometry. Neither the poet nor the ancient thinkers thought spiritual sovereignty was truly on Earth. It was from somewhere out there.

On Earth, the word sovereignty has been in use mostly for countries, where some independence is attainable; but it is still not the sovereignty in the matrix sense. Well, with biological death you may transcend to a new beginning, this is true. Earthly notation has the completeness for “number one”, the beginning in “King Wen Order”, and some even say “god”. You don’t become God after you transcend of course, and earthly ideas are not always what Orti originally might have brought on Earth, if you look to Akrotiri and numerals, as that was the way earthlings got it. Not too bad for the reasoning capacity I mean, but life is not math. They had some hard time over this in the Weimar Republic.

“Is it some extra-physical system, the matrix and the watermark?”

Not really. Past our gate, you live free. On Earth you’d probably say it is quite stochastic, living free. It is anyway not deterministic or a system. You don’t say you systematically live free, or measure infinity. You don’t have to work out the matrix or watermark, to live in the After. It is enough you keep those simple rules, don’t rape, rob, those I’ve told you.

They naturally work together, the individual matrix and infinity; very good for the soul to have shape and movement, so these stay together forever, the matrix and infinity, unless the soul wants to be terminated; the two go apart then, and the atomos merges with the cosmos boundary, the liquid light. I’ve told you, the atomos does not add on the boundary and the liquid light does not need any thickening, so there’s no use for “condemned souls”. We wouldn’t “produce” them, we don’t encourage, so we think it is better when people know about the matrix. By the way, earthly experience with light is particle-wavelength, by far less powerful from what the liquid can do.

We also don’t keep souvenirs. I’ve told you, people here don’t have the physical existence for representative of life altogether. It is afterlife to be real to them, so both the matrix and the infinity vanish, become non-feature, if separate. They leave the Unshaped to disperse. I’ve witnessed this. There’s nothing of a person to remain, and there’s no plus or minus you could assign. You say “vanished in the thin air” on Earth, if someone moves away quick. That was like fluctuating to non-existence, the vanishing. I saw it on a border with the Unshaped. The Unshaped exists, so it expels non-existence.

But if humans want to believe there is some justice, why reject the matrix? You wouldn’t have someone watching you all the time, as when you want to be in private, would you? People here, in the After, wouldn’t have that for interesting. They happen to watch only some of earthly movies. Of course, the matrix is not to mean a uterus or womb. You can browse the Totius for ix, rix, trix, atrix, or Koncewicz, 1867 but quite good. Some ancient stories do look made by speakers of Latin. Earthling speakers of Latin, because the stories shift on word shape. Good learners on that maybe the earthlings were, but they didn’t have the perception for word sense the Orti had.

Some earthlings would say, Orti should have stayed and taken responsibility. Orti say — No, our thoughts were misgiven.

After all, they only showed earthlings a few things. They never told earthlings what to do. Especially, they never told earthlings to try solar beaming for God, as early Jewish people did, calling it the Ark of Covenant. They never told earthlings they could divide an atomos. The word means impartible, and it is real in the physical universe, only not readily perceptible. You tell earthlings that, and they split an earthly particle and call it “splitting the atom”. If you split something, couldn’t you get a name for it less similar to atomos, the impartible? Orti have given up on earthlings: they say they know 10 dimensions; they don’t know ten words (!)”

The Smithsonian are for intellectuals on Earth and even they speculate other dimensions have to be tiny, if Earth has not been “zapped out of existence”. The After is huge. Orti are huge too, but we both truly don’t understand, with our advancement in intellect as well as civilization, why “zap” anyone. Earthlings are not our students, we emphasize.

Smithsonian: We Haven’t Been Zapped Out Of Existence Yet, So Other Dimensions Are Probably Super Tiny

In earthly Far East they said, “It’s in you; you can do whatever you want with it”. The individual matrix and infinity are prerequisite for the completeness, number one living hex. What they should add wherever on Earth, “in the After, this is when and where you can do a lot for yourself, if your pragma is not too bad, for Ever”. On Earth, you can keep your potential neat, before. This is why the Confucius, we think. By the way, we say [confoossyoos], not some other.

This is another thing about earthlings, they take real existence for something that falls apart, turns to dust with time, like earthly. This is real to them. Orti have given up on teaching, [confushus] you say? It sounds like you have plenty of fudge in your mouth and try to say — [confoossyoos].

No, I have really no idea if the notion of matrix ever inspired anyone for mater, like the Catholic holy mother. All I know is you need to have your own matrix, to fare in the After. Every matrix is the same in regard of requirement, as you don’t breach on this or that line, but each and every is for one person. It cannot be a group asset.

Do we have worship? You don’t have to worship, Him or Her. They exist whether you make prayers or not, and as I’ve told you, they made cosmoses to celebrate their children. Having worship never was their purpose. They never said, “let us create worlds to have someone worshipping us”. They don’t come around to overhear people. They made the cosmoses because they were happy with their six kids.

Worship generally serves the worshippers more than the worshipped; we don’t really have angels to hear out prayers at meals, and you’d better not even think about the people here in the After going by the clock; there not being a recipient as such, it is the feelings of the praying person the worship attends. Earthly liturgies obviously have been questioned, on the original Greek and vocabulary for urine and such, so some people here in the After have locally shrines, no liturgy. No God inspects them of course, you don’t get to make offerings or sacrifice. Just pretty things, to show we’re grateful. Our shrines are a bit like earthly winter holiday trees; you put treats there, and then anyone can freely take them. We only have plenty more tree and shrub shapes. And plenty more presents we can create. Naturally, we attend to one another’s feelings. We are aware of it.

“Belief in God personified has been considered naive on Earth”.

On Earth as well, you can see that the human shape is absolutely possible. Why should it be impossible for God? The human shape is in a way “a child of light”, that’s the metaphor for the act of creating humans. All humans are “children of light”, with this metaphor: there’s been sunshine and gravitational lensing, and Earth’s been spinning, all the way in evolution. Rotating mirrors maybe can show. But body shape is biology. The soul is spiritual. We compared rotating mirrors and Vinci above. Egypt didn’t know. They believed the soul is particles of sunshine, and it’s not. It’s an entity, if you have the notion in your language. It does not mean that afterlife would be dark, as you can see for yourself already. Living in the After is also nothing like artificial intelligence. It’s way smarter. : )

By the way, the idea a soul could live in a computer is a pet idea.

“How is sex offense treated here?”

Your soul is clean, is it right?


Your pragma and watermark were showing you’re clean, never went into sex offense. Sexism is a major earthling problem. Violation is considered offense against the human shape, as well as the soul. Grave, actually.

“Guilty, you have to go unshaped pragma? What if the victim forgives?”

Mostly, in practice, the unshaped is the end for a rapist. Forgiveness is not of a matter; the deed is, itself, the thing you have done. The “watermark” is everywhere, as I’ve told you, and for living after, nobody wants a rapist, no cradle. We can’t force a cradle to let anyone, and honestly, why should we? We can’t make cradles according to verdict either.

“Is it that rapists can have the cessation then?”

Some do. It’s possible only in afterlife, for the soul to die, and only if voluntarily. An endless foggy desert, some would say the unshaped pragma is, neither dry nor wet, where all shifts and falls to pieces — it has been unbearable for any soul to live with.

“If the physical other people put Earth under the infinitude, do you go to the Unshaped?”

You’re most likely. Broken or twisted, a soul route would have affinity to its end, and the Unshaped is that end, as long as the infinity and matrix remain together. It is an atomos route. It can merge with the liquid light, so it takes you near as it can.

“How do you know about earthling problems?”

We have access to media transmissions anywhere in the physical universe. A transmission is sort of “moving information” and that we can “catch”. We don’t irradiate archives, if this is what you ask. I like Carl Sandburg.

“And self-oriented sexual activity?”

There’s no “watermark” for that, and it’s your business how you “loop with yourself” generally, as oneself couldn’t be interaction, and it couldn’t be all sexual, some to be no sex at all. We’re not a research facility. Some people do, some don’t, and honestly, nobody cares for the statistic.

“Is it you have to have plenty of social life, to get into a cradle?”

No. Most cradles go by the watermark, and you live way you want, with your earthly creative powers of course, and those that the cradle makes possible. In case of doubt or dispute on the watermark result, as we do not impose self-assessment, the matter can be discussed here, before the soul goes anywhere else, if the choosing is they do not stay here.

There’re are a lot of people who do not stay with anyone from their contemporary physical existence. You see, “ancestors” are not frozen in time or old, and they know about the After a lot better than newcomers.

“Is there a difference between earthlings and the physical other people on self-oriented sexuality?”

I wouldn’t know, honestly. What I know, they don’t really share or like to know the self-oriented thing about another, either way, whether you’d do or not, but this is true also about some earthlings. Well, it does introduce bias. If you’re on a matter with someone, you don’t need an image or association to well, something definitely else. Even most relationships don’t require that kind of talk. They believe in sex preferences, no sex drive or seasonal thing, you know, like earthly animals and spring.

What they think: if you insist on self-oriented sexuality, you might be about knocking off evolution and intellect in other people, to hold power. After all, it really is up to yourself, how you loop with yourself (I don’t mean deviance; who knows why, it does not occur on other human-inhabited planets; maybe it is because they know about the matrix, or they are aware of radios). Generally, humans when oriented to own mind more, they wouldn’t “go down”. Earthly Hinduism even has a theory as chakras, where own, bodily energies may take different paths. The far east philosopher, Confoosyoos saw no wrong with living without sexual activity, and he was right. It is a matter of earthly pleasure, not the matrix, and there are no universal pleasures.

Think Thomas Paine would have been known for you know what, “doing this”, — there wouldn’t have been the War of Independence.

On Earth, you have ideas as paying for sex. The other physical people, Orti, had a volunteer experiment to pay for not having sex. No sexual activity at all; real successful, 100%. To compare Earth, they offered executive salaries for 5 years; to young people and old; no stimulants. There’s no such thing as a sex drive, they found. What there is, it is preference. Humor around here is, they wouldn’t have the same experiment on Earth, because they wouldn’t be paying for nothing.

“Are their habitats gravitationally different from Earth?”

No; exact same pull.

“Do the physical other people fancy earthlings sexually?”

Not really; the earthling sex drive thing is too physiological, they say. Some earthlings call it “God’s will” as here, to tell about some overpowering desires, whereas God wouldn’t enslave or own a human being, or “appropriate” a body part. Earthlings fail to embrace the freedom of Creation. Rumor is, some RF and other stimulation happened to be in use to do for this “God’s will” on Earth, and earthlings did that to earthlings; no compliment to God the Creator.

“Have the physical other people, Orti, been on Earth?”

A few times; but those are not excursions; secret missions, no women or kids. I probably shouldn’t be telling you they ever landed, but it might not matter now.

“Do they look like earthlings?”


“Would DNA testing tell them for non-human or non-earthling?”

No. And probably nothing in earthling stories about UFO tells about them.

“Could they procreate with earthlings?”

Yes, but they don’t. They’d rather stay to their side of the difference, however it is not genetic.

“Would there be anything to stop the physical other people from damaging Earth?”

They don’t intend to damage Earth. They want to put Earth under infinitude or take the planet over, but they wouldn’t have either as a rebel against the skies.

“Isn’t this their responsibility, if they detour earthling souls to some misty Elysees?”

As long as earthlings claim they have a way, it’s not the other human responsibility.

“If they take over, what do they do about earthlings, eliminate?”

They wouldn’t be coming to settle and live on Earth any time soon. Takeover would be gradual. Earthlings might co-exist with them.

“Is it they need to expand their habitat?”

No. They just got another planet created for them. God can do that, or God is their preference — I’m not sure if they’re capable of creating partible matter planets. If you can blow yourself a planet up from the physical universe, I have never learned. What I know, in the physical world there’s always the point of origin and backlash, so creating planets from a physical point could be tricky, and Orti got their planets close enough, one from another. It’s a hike, with their space travel.

“How many are they, and their planets?”

They’ve got three or four planets now, and honestly, the feeling about Earth is like it is going to waste. God created it, for what we know, so it’s worth thinking to save it as such.

“Is it they have many more children?”

No. They live longer. Their offspring maybe replaces the population, one or two kids per couple mostly, but for what I know, they don’t look to stats to procreate.

“Do all the planets have the boxes to talk with the After?”

Let us agree, the early Jews were not altogether crazy. The box to talk with God was a real thing on Earth. It remains part every planetary setup, first-things-first. Each of their planets has the box, and they don’t want to lose that contact, so they don’t act against God, though they don’t ask God about everything they do, of course.

“Do they act on a principle?”

They do have principles, but they don’t expect earthlings ever could agree. Earthlings are too narcissistic. To get along, it would be for earthlings to renounce any instrumental idea for God, both Testaments. The old Testament looks an ancient monastery to have gathered stories; the New Testament looks a rabbinic college, man handiwork and thought. Nobody expects earthlings would give up on those ideas; earthlings look like it is so nice to imagine someone died for them.

On the other side, in Heaven, you’d have a fellow actually accused of having had his son crucified, and he never was on the planet to have the mundane act. There cannot be any compromise on this, Orti say. God has children, lives as with wife (couldn’t need an earthly magistrate), and both are Creators. Do you understand our non-involvement policy?

“Yes, I do. You feel offended, that’s why. Alien abductions or Rapture, are these all allowed by Heaven?”

This is the thing about Earth. Most events ascribed to God or so-called UFO never were extraterrestrial, and earthling theories on them are own juice or sauce, whereas humans are no food. God created the cosmos. Orti visited in Knossos. God never brought any disasters on Earth, and Orti never abducted anybody. They only told about cradles and the two Gods. Rapture as earthlings describe it wouldn’t let the body survive. Biological structuring is not as bricks you could make a house of, then put it back into bricks, still after to have the same house constructed again, Aristotle mentioned. Why have God for real only if God harms you? “Rapture” would be harm.

If Minoans are hard to find under Santorini volcanic rubble, it is because Orti helped them evacuate from what properly might be described as ancient Egyptian solar beam invasion on Knossos. Have a look at vitrification over there. It was nasty. Egyptians used lensing, to eliminate Knossian knowledge about solar energy, because they wanted that for their god, and Knossians had a festival like for common folk. But nobody vanished, just the evacuation was very fast. Orti never played or pretended God, and the Creator didn’t do the seven plagues. The plagues occurred owing to changes in the ecosphere after the lensing, so Egyptians kind of bit their tail with that invasion. Alexander’s raid on Egypt was in long-term reproach. And well, some people wrote in Hebrew, God was fiery and jealous. Those were Egyptians, not God. Earthlings continue to derive their Decalogue from that Deuter, 4.13:9.

Orti took Minoan people to what you could say, was paradise, in comparison with earthly conditions, but it was not in afterlife, it was on an Orti planet. It does not mean they would do it anymore, you can tell the Guns ‘n Roses. Orti felt responsible, because they taught Minoans, so they wanted to save them from earthly envy that came for that from Egypt. Yes, Orti girls are pretty. They’re human, and the boys are people too. The species is the same throughout the physical universe, human in the same degree. There is no way to go “down” such a paradise city without take-off, to “up there”, really in a spaceship.

Orti opened that chapter of the word of God that Thomas Paine hinted in his Age of Reason chapter XI: But could man gain a knowledge of that agency, so as to be able to apply it in practice, we might then say that another canonical book of the word of God had been discovered; man has given the name of attraction, gravitation, and repulsion (to that agency). Orti can use gravitation.


“Not even Sodom or Gomorrah, God didn’t destroy those?”

This story also is kind of sensitive. You see, without the unclean mob of Sodom, the two innocent daughters of Lot would have been violated upon their father’s wish. The Bible says, Lot offered his two virgin daughters to the surrounding mob, only the mob did not accept the offer. God never sent any angels to save such a man. The two towns perished in an earthly chemical reaction, however culinary the wifely salt.

“Miracles by Jesus, was it all just a story?”

We don’t change molecular structure, as our pragma does not require. Quantum position shift or leap would be closer to what we do sometimes, in earthly terms. Molecular structure is something completely earthly. The time of Jesus, the clue I’ve been given, the stationing army was the ancient Rome. They had fish, wine, and such. The same rumor says their hire was not an ancient teacher, only looked similar.

“It was a stunt?”

Nope; the first successful rebel by the Roman army, perhaps, to fight the Roman civitas and its gods. Also before Caesars, soldiers had to serve real long; they didn’t get to have a family life, or good cash. “God” was an emperor title, and a “god’s day” was a battle. It took some time, to overturn the Roman government, because the followers of the civitas were strong. It’s been doubted about Visigoths, if they were really that strong, so they won like someone helped them.

The Roman army was not much believing, they could see what Roman rulers did. Their story would be a reverse of ancient Roman deities. Instead of dying for gods, the soldiers came up with a “God” to die for them. Simple men. They didn’t think who made the cosmos and if that real Creator ever gave up on family life. But well, they allowed all their thinking about religion shaped by the civitas, and it was visibly make-believe.

Our sources say, in Antiquity, young Jewish boys approached a Roman squad; the boys were newbies in a rabbinic college and asked, do you know if you could create belief?

The name Miriam could derive from Egypt, but maria [maareea], meant the seas in Latin. The high seas too, as oceans. It was the plural of the Latin mare, [maa:re], a sea. If a woman as Maria existed, she would have been a cooperative of the Roman army, to be a mediatrix, the attribute with Christianity. A brokeress, she would have been.

It is not altogether unnatural to think she had sex with a Roman soldier, she wasn’t only a broker between the army and the locals. He would have liked her looks, and provided fish and more, for her son. Or Hesus was his son; pictured with blue eyes in many Christian paintings, as some people from the ancient Italian peninsula. She would have begotten without cohabitation, not without sex. Actually, there’s no other way for humans to beget. If the matter was with petting, well, petting is not anything we’d worship.

And later, the soldier couldn’t endeavor to support her and Hesus anymore. This is why some atheists and non-believers say, it is a story about an army. It is when you depend on a big human structure, like military, that you may give much, and then you cannot anymore, if other guys are looking. Well, something much as a pardon from Pilatus. Father, my father, why have you abandoned me, isn’t this what you note about the Hesus on the cross?

Macula was a Roman name, also of big army commanders, though not in the list here. The adjective “immaculate” can be interpreted as “one from the Macula army” in Latin. Otherwise, you would be “spotted” or “stained”. A soldier from among the troops commanded by Macula?

Earthlings do know that women do not remain virgins after they get pregnant. Maria is “a holy virgin and mother”, in Christian belief; but if an earthling man has sex with a woman, it makes a difference; she is not a virgin anymore, and the male is announced manly. But for God, you say she remained a virgin? God did not make the manly difference? Do earthlings mean that God was a eunuch? It’s no path for salvation, I hope you understand, such challenging behavior.

“Christians say Mary was not an ordinary woman. Was she possibly an Orti?”

No! Whatsoever! Oh my, Orti would never have a woman under such demeaning treatment. They care to have means before they have children, and they are mostly monogamous, I’ve told you. To get a woman pregnant, leave her with another to labor in an animal shed, and then to crucify the child — this is no Orti manner. There would be a military intervention on any Orti planet, should anyone try such a cruel idea on anyone. Cruel, and incongruous about the After, as Orti are in touch.

It is not likely there would be such an idea there, because they do not trust and do not like Christianity. To read Fatima — God would require for Catholics to have Russia? Why? For the natural resources? They are Russian and Russians have the right to sell them. This part has made us even angry, under the cross there were angels envisioned with crystal buckets, which is the sense for the word aspersorium, to gather blood — we never would be that primitive.  For crystal and color red, sun beaming and ruby, I’ve told you, there is some deflection variance with ruby, but it is never crystal filled with blood. It’s ruby. We never did, and God never did, — speak through illiterate children, and honestly, I don’t like the Portuguese.

The Sun could be of help in damaging meteorites and such, but you don’t hit the Sun for that. Orti have it just in case, more like here, but I can’t give you their military secrets. Only they could decide to reveal. What there generally shows, they use an object to direct the energy. I don’t know if this is the fabric for the rumor of “the sacrifice of the Sun”. The object is not human ever. It perishes in the process, but it’s just a thing, a “boltheader”, to drive energy. Early humans had that thing to make people shapes of everything, so they had Athena springing from Zeus’ head; but the myth had it too, you couldn’t have a regular daughter that way.

Plain common sense, the Sun, earthly or for another planet, does not look like you need to hit it, to get something out of it. Hitting it can be a bad idea.

“Orti live in a solar system?”

Yes, with all their planets. They use a gravitational screen, so you can’t see them. It’s only when you’re there, that you can see. Somewhere east of Orion, people say on Earth, “heralds of the Gods”. Orti only told earthlings there was the After. It’s a misunderstanding, if earthlings thought they were to become God. You have creative powers in the After, as to create from pragma, but you’re not God. More or less you are like a god, to compare Earth; you only need to learn that, but most people do. The Greco-Roman mythology has another misunderstanding. She never was a giant hunter. It’s disproportionate. She was only pregnant. Able to kill game, but she wouldn’t kill all animals on Earth. She never was on Earth, when incarnate.

By the way, earthlings shouldn’t use aggressive frequencies, to search the cosmos. You might hit someone in the middle of their dinner as well, and they are not going to be grateful. Gravitational screens are quite regular out there, and if people want to be in touch, they have duogony and diplomatic posts. Screens are not shields. And finding people out there cannot be as precious as keeping good manners in the cosmos and staying in touch; because if you find people in a way that is not agreeable to them, they’re not going to care; you’ll be just null to them.

“Was Indonesia or Santa Cruz — someone gotten angry over their dinner?”

40 thousand earthly years before earthlings had the year one for Christos. No, it wasn’t extraterrestrial. It was earthlings playing with the Sun. It was a global disaster. Those unwitting earthlings focused and deflected at 180 degrees. In such a solar wave, everything that is not rock or in a rock cave, vanishes. Category 7, for life on levels above sea. Granite atomic spin gray area. All physical matter is feature at spin. But some earthlings survived, maybe in caves, and passed the unwitting idea on, if you compare the Jewish ark.

We have records like this, for Earth: It was dinner time. Ken was with the lab. I was with the kids. The lens had been planned for tests in a long time, so I did not think it an important day. I saw a flash of light. Ken came running. Hide! Hide! He grabbed me and the kids, for the nearest cave. I didn’t think we were near caves, before. I thought it was camping. The waves came at intervals. Things vanished, like matter was not bound anymore. We had a periscope. It was only some rock to sustain, and we were in it. Sometimes able to look out. Ken told me the lens failed and caused a solar explosion. Granite and related spins didn’t yield, as that would be only under focused beams. I asked, are we to stay in a sculpture forever? And he said, maybe. We had to learn to live in caves for some time. There was an experimental underground garden we could have air and vegetables, if it continued to work alright with gases. I asked, did he predict it would happen? Why did he take us camping over there? He said he had doubt on the process, but he didn’t have a say, so he brought us near that garden, well, so to speak “near”, it was about a day’s trip through that rock, under the surface of the Earth.

You have similar tunnels on the moon and else.

“Orti came later?”

Yes. They noticed the earthling Sun. They were trying to tell earthlings not to follow the unwitting.

“Do you mean the Jewish ark could have brought a global — holocaust?”

The 180 degrees already did, on Earth. Years before Christ. Just skip “proto-Indo-European” from your etymology. There never was any proto. But it never justified Hitler in what he’d done. In the After, the thought is, it is your decision to obey an order, as well as to give it.

“Would it take thousands of years for Orti to come around Earth?”

No. At first, human life on Earth looked extinct. Orti came when they noticed Knossians.

“What happened to Ken and his family?”

They died in that garden. They were close to the backlash area. She told us about the event after she died her mortal death and came here. Earthlings have this saying, nothing really perishes in nature, like formations become elements with decomposition. Human ego, personality, do you have an element for it? No. And it does not decompose, and it goes somewhere, and our After is this “somewhere”. Even if there is nothing with earthly records about the holocaust 40 thousand B.C, we have our records.

If earthlings say their belief keeps them at balance, we’d say, you know the fellas in the picture below would be praying to a lens actually, the 180. And to bring a holocaust on a planet is as stupid as to make you universally famous, all the six cosmoses, for being unwitting. If we prayed to God, which we don’t, because Gods never eavesdrop, we’d say “Thank you”. There is nothing to thank for, in this idea to misuse of physics. By the way, pray and prey, these are so close in human language as if She really hunted.

“The story of Eden, could it have come from such ancient underground gardens?”

It is probable. Adam certainly wasn’t dead before he was on Earth. People had such gardens near underground hot springs, for winter. Ken’s garden was experimental, because it had water with natural electrics as well, to see how plants grow. It took some time, to have regular drinking water, but filters and magnetics were in.

“And the story of the true shepherd?”

Orti never pretended Gods. If you wonder about the Kislev, Orti have the Cue on October 10 every year, and it is some every 30 or 40 years we put out trinkets in the outer space for Orti generations to see we’re real. The longest interval ever has been 50 years. They like to see our pretty things, after all.

Solar flares can release energy as a billion megatons of TNT. An earthquake is no wonder, if to mean Knossos. The thing is in having the energy without the flare; this is what Orti have worked out quite well.

Some earthlings would try to look witty talking about borders. Thomas Paine did that too, but that was not to question the universe. We say, yes, you could go out even into a desert, to say you have a broader view, but we prefer to make intellectual progress within the comfy actually areas we have. Some fellas come around with the Bunyan story. They say, there is a wall, and behind, there’s the king. All they bring is their politics. Bunyan himself didn’t choose to try the indigo, the liquid light, and well, we’re not much political, but if to compare, it’s democracy around here. We do not need Gods dying. We do not need succession. Here’s the Bunyan idea we never recommend, some 1:35 in the movie. There’s not much for you to experience after 1:40. Bunyan admitted, he was in a royalist prison, so he wrote something to accord a royalist taste, but if he could, he’d send them all to hell.

People on Earth should mind, most earthlings had a belief, and believed the Earth was flat, and all were wrong. Plus, there is not much understanding around here for titling as maiden-wife, or mother-virgin. These are plain antonyms, and coupling them is like stating, I’ve got nothing to say or tell really. We think, if you don’t, then do not go to all your lengths. And by this we also mean the woman in Christos life, Mary Magdalene.

Christians would describe her for a prostitute, whereas the Middle East say she was learned, knew Greek, and was actually Christos wife, and part in his intellectual life. If the device should be “shift”, like you say the square is pink right next to the pink one, or two is your interval, we’d say there could be a difference between a brokeress and the Christianly depiction for financial gain. If you wanted to say Christos’ mother was not chaste — and having a cult about her — this is probably how you’d do it; you’d demean the other woman in his life. Woman is not synonymous with sex, of course. Woman or man are gender.

We are able to think exclusive of sex. There are contexts where sex is not in, so to speak. Some earthlings look like they can’t, and they don’t make sense. All the parts remain in place, don’t they? You just don’t talk about that in some contexts, because it is not relevant.

Christianity does not look honesty much, to us. If it forewarns, there’s too much of a twist or enigma, for the matter to be understood. A figure hanging from a cross is not going to prevent a lens from beaming.

But we do understand, about earthling ancients, there might have been some vindictiveness: if a navy builds an underwater path, for you to look like you tread on water, if a navy provides wine and fish, for you to look like multiplying goods by way of miracle, you of course do know that you’re pulling the people, cheating them, and you’re doing this with a conqueror army. We don’t think Mary Magdalene fisheries of Magdala would have provided, as the news of it would have been all around before the fish. The people voted to punish Christ, not Barabbas, for association with the conqueror army, Roman imperial. Our only reservation is that there were quite probably two Christs, and it was not the cheat to get crucified. Some writings were certainly not Hebrew, video on the right, some 1:34. Burial rite?

There was possibly something in his teaching to have had authority altogether upset. If that was Aristotle’s physics, it might have been associated with the vanishing diamond experiments and well, solar lensing. The beaming can be upsetting. Hesus would have taught his thing after the Egyptian seven plagues, and for those versed in such affairs, the plagues would have been a kind of backlash. Judas was maybe a Judean actually, who didn’t want the risk of backlash. 30 monetary units, you see. None of Hesus writings ever have been preserved, or — they never have been published.

Christianity looks a worship on solar beams too, like earthlings did in Egypt, if to compare Fatima. The original Knossos was not worship of a beam. It was a well controlled play with a physical phenomenon, but Orti were part in it; they knew how. Christianity only continues with the human error to have caused God’s taking duogony away from Earth: lensing or other solar phenomena and calling it God.

“Isn’t it better, if peple don’t know?”

No. People are manipulated, if people don’t know. And who could you trust? Those who’d do it, saying it’s God? We could view WWII as a war over lensing properties, by the way, but lensing or radioing the Sun never was even mentioned, in any news. People wouldn’t have gone to war for a dispute over a lens; so if people know the whole thing, maybe without the exact parameters, but about the backlash too, well, you don’t have many willing to join a teaching where optics would be mystery, not physics. It is the same for acoustics and all physical things that can influence the body. You know that some in Scandinavia have meniscus for men. It looks like over there, Romans didn’t make it either, to talk the people into a beam. Freud had lenses in his story, but that didn’t persuade anyone. Well, his story doesn’t make sense. And Romans must have been aware of some backlash, to look all around instead of making the thing in Rome. Earthly Ouroboros might be a symbol for that.

Apparitions, as reported of Christian Mary (right, which do you mean; well, the mother), always portend damage, persecution, havoc. If you had a water well or jar, for images that may come with nature, and that well or jar always would give you unpleasant views, wouldn’t you stop looking into that? No point blaming water. And Christians would keep on digging.

But we’re not getting involved, as I’ve told you, the antonym thing is discouraging. We say, it is obvious also on Earth, the teaching profession does not mean that you or your spouse offers sex. Christianity does not give much, for any description of Heaven. They don’t have the duogony. People wouldn’t be singing in choirs all the time around here. Christianity is a challenge on Gods, to get back in touch, and it’s been a failure, we might say, as the box has not been back on Earth, and it’s been more than two thousand years. Gods don’t like being threatened. It is below their dignity, to yield.

To talk about the duogony, we need to be back with those straight things: the “staff of Ra” would have been the shape of the Sun; it had a crystal in the center. Some common lore on Earth has the Ark for a box to talk with God, like Belloq in the Raiders. The “invincible” earthly ark, the one to level mountains, it would have been a solar beaming device. Lensing. Some people wondered over a few caves in South America, like an extraterrestrial drill made them. It was evidently solar beams.

The true box to talk with the After was not a weapon. It was a visible object with a duogony ornament, most likely. Earthlings have monogony for asexual reproduction, nobody around here knows, why. The part -gony is about direction, you can compare the Latin agere, for propagation. Duogony is something that can communicate both ways, talk both directions. You can find the duogony pattern at Knossos, bottom left from Evans here. It’s not a regular radio. Earthly radio is just physics. Duogony is the only way to talk with the After from a physical planet. The only thing able to propagate both ways. Agony is for times when things end, their “run of life is finished”.

If you expand the pattern, this is what you get, our two-tail, duogonek, or however to translate. Ad vitam agendam, page 35. It is not the most serious of ornaments, but you shouldn’t be too serious about leaving the physical world. Just be serious as it deserves. You forget your milk teeth, don’t you? The physical death is like a milk tooth. It does not mean your life does not count. It does not mean you remain without teeth.

This is why we call it mortal death. And we don’t actually like hysterics. People who’d come to say, oh, they only wanted to know, and only because they wanted to know it happened, they died. They weren’t forewarned properly. You don’t play with your real teeth, do you?

As far as we know, the box had the duogony ornament and it was taken away from Earth upon God’s command, after the Jewish made their beaming with their “ark”. Orti took the box. God said, the earthling idea for God was too primitive, to let earthlings tell they talk with God whatsoever. Developing the story of Christos didn’t make things any better. The Sanhedrin was Jewish. Maybe it is, the Jewish don’t have the feel for God. Their God would be arbitrary and cruel. Primitive and sadistic. Maybe this is all they learned from their slave years under Egypt. But Egyptians never were true God. Egyptians only titled themselves, as Romans did after. Israel is a country granted by people, not by God.

If God does not directly intervene and oppose, it does not mean God ordains the thing. Well, God does not really intervene, for people to feel free, and Orti are happy. They say some people would be much promoted over and beyond other people, if God came with all the power and might. It wouldn’t be free living as equals.

If you make the duogony pattern out, there are two ends really, for outside and in; it only looks like two stem out of the “head”, but they’re actually one for in the “head”. It is not a technical error. It says, don’t come with little things. Come with your lead. You know, we have our lives here. Would people in the US for example, be bothered about a fella in Europe who lost his shoelace, but he says it’s vintage, and he wants it back?

The head is not a human head, that is; there is no implement to put on or in the brain to connect with the After, and that’s why Knossians copied the pattern on jar, they didn’t have it for apparel or attire. The box was a physical object, and it could chime. We don’t know maybe the earthly pozytywka is an echo of people describing it, however to derive a music box from the Latin positivus. Earthling horror movies are intuition, psychology, sometimes interesting, and they have “ghosts” coming with music boxes.

“And human neurophysiology, you can view feedback as interoceptive and exteroceptive”.

It is as all are “children of light” in a way, duogony as a functional property is present in all physical universes, and it may have expression in bodily physics, so to speak. But bodily feedback is not strictly delineated. Touch is mostly exteroceptive, whereas to speak you interoceptively feel your tongue. Human neurophysiology is not the duogony. It wouldn’t be a nice idea, to have people for phonebooths, and again, Gods are innocent of any such stunt.

“Is duogony a man or woman idea?”

It works, for all that matters now. Th duogony to talk with After is in all physical universes, only Earth does not have it. If earthlings speculate if God could be a She? For that, Knossians came up with Artemis, or Orti brought them a picture, only the proportions didn’t work. I can tell you more later, why She wouldn’t hold people for miniatures. The real She definitely has her dignity. When they went incarnate to have their kids, she hunted for sport. Animals don’t have a matrix like human, earthlings can see that by animal behavior too, so you can hunt animals. It does not mean She’s Artemis. The Greek story of Artemis has this one aspect about Her: she hunted animals for sport, as they had other food stuff. You can eat the animal you’ve killed for sport, of course.

Humans are not animals. the matrix is different. The infinity is different. The atomos does not work for animals really. Pragma is absolutely not the same, between a human and a cat, lion, cow, fish, or whatever of the sort. And the fifth belongs with further reading you can do. I am not here to indoctrinate you. See the Fresque. For a human to want to be like an animal, it would be like this.

People are not animals. People are animate life forms; of nature, capable of moving about on their own; so, all animals are animate life forms, because they can move about, but some animate life forms are not animals. They are human, not animal. If you’re not getting it right now, I may explain later. After you do your reading, if you like.

She has all God powers that He does, and belief on Earth does not change the After. It is not like you could deprive Her of her powers, promoting a subdued image for a woman on Earth. There is the point, the holy Mary would have been a very subdued earthling female: to get a flower, get pregnant, and go labor in an animal shed. The real She is not easily provoked, however. You are going to be at the Nouma bay, after you die on Earth.

“Like in Russian, Ну, погоди! Just you wait for it?”

We’d say, careful what you profess on Earth, before you get here. Sometimes.

Gods act of love does not cancel itself, the way earthly belief does. Souls are begotten in biomatter. He and She begot real soul kin, their children. The children were begotten from Gods being biological parents — incarnate, but real — whereas earthly religion says redemption for an apple was by way of giving up on offspring. The Christianly god could have just forgotten the whole thing, if he wanted to forgive that apple, right? The thing could have just canceled itself.

The real Gods, the two and never more, have real children. Six of them. There’s nothing to cancel about what Gods have done. Gods didn’t start as biomatter begotten souls, but they proved they were soul matter, as their children are. Gods went to a physical planet and begot. It wasn’t Earth.

Orti have it for a great gift from Gods, that humans can have normal families, and human relationships can survive mortal death. Many earthlings turn out to be just bio kin, not soul kin. When earthlings learn about all circumstance and behaviorist driving on Earth, they don’t stay together with earthly families in afterlife. Bio kin is just genetics, and this dies with mortal death. Gods never gave any of their kids for a flesh and blood ritual, so you can’t have soul kin with this, by the way: with behaviorist driving.

You can’t have soul kin with Christianity. It is an idea to break earthly kin, whereas it is not so necessary to break it. It is enough you give up on the incongruous idea, like God was necessarily single, and offered his only son for one of his own apples. It is perceived more of an earthly whim around here, than hope. Gods never gave up on any of their children, they’re really He and She, like Yin and Yang, and it is enough you’re not Christian anymore, and you can enter. The best of cradles too, if you’re not a criminal. Some crimes are not considered soul crimes, just earthly. Our cradle really is next to Heaven, and there’re no visas to require.

“If you don’t give up on the earthly idea?”

You can go wherever they accept you, or the Unshaped. The atomos trajectory is always a few cradles; then, it’s the Unshaped. There is no compromise on the children of Gods. None of the six has been ever an offering. For all the goodness, Gods deserve their happy lives, and we have happy lives here, so we’re not going to give up on this. Already on Earth, you wouldn’t give up on your happy life just to meet someone’s expectation.

“Can anyone call Earth from the Unshaped?”

No. It’s got only one-way signal, to us.

If the Jewish boys were just curious, or knew about a perceived loss of contact with Orti and God, who knows? No broker and no brokeress could make up for this loss. It is only getting back with God’s true principles to do. One of them is pretty much honesty.

What is very much wrong with Earth, and Orti affirm, already the Roman army used physics to pretend God. Vacuum, the physical void, could induce an earthquake. “It’s arrived”, an earthling “clairvoyant” said before his foretold quake many years after. Well, physically, if you know how to drop, you always get the “slump”, because Earth’s crust cannot bear with physically near void; that belongs out there, in the cosmos. Orti say, if you choose to have clairvoyance, there’s always going to be a physical idea to make it real. Orti don’t have clairvoyance. Life is better as an open context.

The difference between fleets and navies was not great, in the Latin of the time. A navigator was a sailor, mariner, whereas a classiarius was someone to pertain with a navy, as a marine. A classicula was a small fleet. Roman navies also supplied and transported their legions. The Alexandrian Fleet mediated trade with India at the time of Christos. Classis Germanica and Classis Britannica were reportedly close in time, and the German “Feder” could make an interesting comparison, if you wanted to nib and nibble through time, of fœderations.

Romans lived many years before Rousseau, the guy to claim that people were generally good, so they hardly ever went anywhere in small number, especially before they’d had trade with the land. The first landing in England remains noted for 55 BC. A small flotilla, the English guessed, as it failed to progress on land (we saw that in writing). Classis Britannica is usually dated for 43 AD. The Roman army progressed then. Earthlings say evidence for the first Roman landing is “tantalizingly scant”, and at the same time they show tiles, stamped CLBR for a classis. The tiles are “common along the east Kent coast and in London”, earthlings say at the same time.

Our God? The one to have created Earth. Earth never has been the only planet, but the story happened only on Earth, the story to take the blame for “an apple of paradise” and say that crucifying the only son of God was the resolve. In other cradles, it might be even interpreted as a declaration of intentions. I hope you can understand why we prefer to leave it at disbelief, that earthlings truly would have the Jew, Hesus Christos, for the only begotten son of God.

It would be so exaggerated on the part of any god to give up own child, even to incarnate to beget with someone they are not in relationship with, as the Christian religion admits, it was an earthling man to look after the child later, and the same religion says, they were so poor they had to stay in an animal shed… All that to make up for an apple?

To save the world: from whom, if the religion means their God is Almighty? We can’t see how earthlings find comfort with a story of a maniac and a sadist. The religion says God is omniscient and all-powerful, so he had that kid in poverty and then crucified, by not preventing it. Did God only wait for the earthling son to grow up, cruelly to dispose of him? Earthlings wouldn’t have anything like that for a pact with a Viking. They would have said, no such thing could make us good neighbors, whether we crucify our son, or a Viking son; so how could earthlings have any such thing for accord with God?

The gravitational constant in the physical universe, if to believe it was created, is a very slim value. In SI units, it is about 6.674×10−11 m3⋅kg−1⋅s−2, minus for all that; the indispensable minimum. Earthling science knows about it and has made it public, so could earthlings truly believe God is someone who exaggerates a lot?

We’re not cruel, so we leave it at doubt for the time being, but the Creator is a real reference here, Gods are really our neighbors, so we cannot leave it altogether alone. The physical other people, Orti, wouldn’t either.

“Tell me about these other people. How do they live.”

Market economy, mostly arts, as the government provides 3D print for commodities dirt cheap and everybody gets income. They say, earthlings almost got it with Hollywood and the Silicon Valley, how creativity can earn; only earthlings don’t have the basic income. Orti hardly have any crime. They use natural energy, food, and they also grow minerals. Their recycling is as can you associate with space flight only for Earth now, molecular, absolutely clean.

“Do they have traditional arts, as painting on Earth?”

You can do all that if you like, but there’re fewer and fewer people interested. 3D print can give you an oil painting, or watercolor, whichever you like, perfect rendition of your computer file on canvas or another material, and computer files let you work with detail and color in ways that traditional canvas wouldn’t be able. Orti compare oil paint on linen to iron horseshoes on Earth. After all, it is about means, tools, and the market. It’s not only of farmers you don’t expect forking all the hay, or cutting crops with a knife, even if favorite.

For example, Orti value French Impressionists high, but say those would have chosen 3D print, had it been available. Cezanne maybe even especially. You can paint on layers, and 3D they come out an incredible result. More, you don’t have this artist emotional thing about materials, because layers — you can delete, copy, and change, all the time. There’s no way you’d damage your painting, you can only consciously bin it. Finally, earthling artists mostly have been poor. There, with 3D print and NFTs, Orti artists can make a lot of cash, and there are plenty of people who can afford a work of art, the market is much different.

Their life span is about 120 years, as long as the brain “keeps the light good”, they say. They don’t age the same as earthlings. They stay bright until some 120 old, but they supplement regularly, minerals, vitamins, basic oils, and use loads of dried stuff, like dried carrot powder, dried tomato or green peas powder, so they’re free of part the cost of living that you “pay” on Earth to your own gut, because they can have nutrition without much bulk. Smaller stomachs, and delicate in tastes.

Alcohol? Wine would be the favorite, but always with water, like ancient Greeks. That way, you have a nice flavor, you can relax, and you don’t get drunk.

Driving? They don’t work like in offices; physical classrooms are mostly for sports, arts and crafts or creativity. They hardly have any bullying, and that without putting people under special doctrines, because you can do your curriculum in more than one school, so there’s never this “tight atmosphere” and your mind horizon is always broader, even if you join a military course. Most socialization begins via their web, so they don’t have much traffic in city streets. If you want to have and drive own vehicle, as some do, it’s outside built-up or municipal areas; individual motorists are banned from villages and towns.

Many, many fewer accidents or collisions, that allows. Actually in towns, they haven’t had even one collision in many years. Their navigation systems are efficient, and pedestrians are not on the same level with vehicles. Public transportation is free to travel, you go up or down a level to get a bus or train. Transportation of goods? Underground automatic rail.

The preference is to walk or jog, even if every day, but if you want to get somewhere away, you get a smart car and it drives on its own. Like a taxi, only automatic and absolutely dirt cheap.

Orti have never had slavery; on Earth Thomas Paine wrote, it is the Creator’s authority that people are humankind, everybody in the same degree. On their first planet, Orti got such a message straightforwardly and wouldn’t go against it, whereas on Earth some people probably concealed the meaning. They also haven’t had war in 30 thousand years. They live as one planet, I’ve told you. Yes, they can have weapons, all are trained to use. Your weapon belongs with your fingertip there, so nobody abuses that.

No fossil fuels. Orti use some mineral kinetics and grow those minerals, so they’re never short of energy. And they have hydropower or solar energy. They don’t believe in robot souls. They are quite right, artificial intelligence does not have the atomos and none ever comes to our cradle. And Orti say, don’t exaggerate, don’t make robots look and talk much like people. Orti call it prophylaxis. They say, earthlings maybe do it because of the past, the earthling slave cultures. An earthling robot, you know, would be like a human slave.

We don’t need earthly AI in our cradle. We have things you could call gadgets, but our processing is more like you maybe can see on Earth with this so-called faithful translation. You can look at the same matter in close linguistic representation, whereas the languages are not related. You know there has to be some sort of information that both the languages refer to, and the information cannot be binary or mathematical: a mathematical equation maybe can communicate a letter shape you want from a computer, but it never is that shape actually. Our pragma processing operates the sort of information that actually is, we make our devices consciously and to wit of course, and the capacity is actually infinite, just as languages are. Well, but earthlings still make “neural networks” for computing. We don’t pattern after the nervous system. It is mortal and finite. Though we are not as advanced as Heaven, where they learn and use the sort of information, wit-which-is, for actually creating things, and even habitats where life comes to exist, we are the best of havens with this regard too, right next door. It was the information-that-is to allow the creation of the physical universe. It was the information God used to create Earth.

Oh, you’ve never seen any Orti towns; maybe the earthly Hanging Gardens could give you a picture. Shrubs and low evergreens are everywhere, but a florist would have a patch as you can see in an earthly arboretum, so you walk like into a small garden. They use mineral mosaics to gather solar energy and give warmth or luminosity or both, in house architecture and roads or sidewalks too: no slippery roads or pedestrian paths in winter, but that also owing to surface tiny carvings that let water go either side of the road or path, as when it snows in winter and melts on the top above the mosaic, and from the side, the rigging may take it to sprinkle city vegetation, through filters, even months after: some structures have underground containers that could provide through draught in a desert.

Another thing is, if you have vegetation, you have better than sandy weather. They have towns in places you could compare Mojave for the beginning of the endeavor. Not all deserts are result of sun-beaming, also on Earth. Well, and not only Freud, ancient Egyptians never happened on Orti planets either, and that simply because Orti have never allowed the radio frequencies, and they have never allowed the lensing to be secret and used on the public. All you have on Earth about “psychology” or “spirituality” as by Freud or ancient Egypt, and the quotes belong here, it has all come with plain physics, that is, disqualified for psychology or spirituality per sese, would you like the Latin. In the After, nobody understands why Freud’s ashes are stored and exhibited in an ancient Greek kratera. Orti say, nobody was manic about ringworms there in ancient Greece, and to use radio or focused beaming on a human being and call it psychology or spirit, you should be glad to suffer a hammer on your knee as well: it’s just physics too.

Orti have never built their cities and culture on belief. Their reality is to see mortal life as a temporary context, and they have built according to weather fronts rather than particular geo surface. They manage both quite well. No strong wind on land they’d need to nick “Nino” or other. They build rigs to break bad gusts, rather than have them hitting hard. Their cities, with vegetation, develop own biologically climate — by far best to do the job. And that without feeling much wind at all. Winds “talk” with local conditions. Orti make it kind of “tundra”, like Alpine on Earth, only with bonsai for all species of trees, and regular summer of course. You don’t get “tundra cyclones” on Earth, do you?

Also on Earth, you could breed bonsai of any type of a tree, they only grow shorter and proportionately a bit wider maybe, but “bonsai tundra” could work many places on Earth with mangrove and such, but we think earthlings know about many resolves; we don’t know why they are not implemented, and the places are wasteland. Needless to say, solar panels are able to offer a bit of a shadow. Orti love saffron and keep it financially very available, and you get the chaparral landscape also in southern Oregon.

“Have the Orti ever been like Earth, without contact with the After?”

No, but they remain DNA human, just the same as earthling, and they started about the time Earth did. They only never lost the contact. Their planets are gravitationally the same.

“Is the physical universe an experiment on human DNA and character, like you have people here or there and compare?”

No, a few planets looked better for a resolve than one, and human lives went different ways. This is all that happened.

Orti architecture is part as earthly skyscraper, only they make their horizontals broad, as for a city district, and build business, housing, or other units on that, flexible jointing, like you maybe have for bridges or sea rigs on Earth. The construction is part “tree-house”, and vertically overall alternate “honey combs”, so they have light on lower levels. You could live on the 40th floor and come out into a street or lane straight, but they don’t go taller than 80 story on average. Their rigging looks some “geo clay”, but it’s hard and at the same time flexible enough, like good steel. Sunshine is never too harsh, maybe except the highest floor, but they don’t have housing units there. All town is chill and light.

“Do they demand self-sacrifice of the people in the weather-front cities?”

To do too much in a temporary context for life, you’d be giving up on a whole eternity, Orti say. Well, the After don’t like exaggeration either. They never sacrifice people.

If you build a weather-front structure, it is for the structure to hold, right? You don’t have to imagine a big wind right from the start. Every storm begins with small things. For every cyclone, tornado, there are conditions nearby on the planet, and this is where Orti seek to change the process, so they build their structures. Well then, why build make-believe “tree-house honey combs”, if you could let people in to live? And if you let people live there, you don’t have some housing worry; the people don’t crave for a roof, and repairs are not on the state budget. The rig town people don’t get to suffer anything.

It is speeds of wind on Earth to look mad to Orti. They never get to suffer that, but they build tactically, at weather fronts before they are formed.

No planet needs bad weather, they say. If a wind does not get formed one place, it does not mean there’s anything of the sort forming anywhere else. Stopping it one place is enough, provided the globe is not a “hot house” that needs a vent. Orti say, only make it mellow, about the weather. Structures of some 200 square miles would be darn expensive even to them, without inhabitants and business. The rigging architecture does not require that you start big, but the towns usually expand.

Suicide? They don’t have that, because everybody knows the After does not take it well, and even if you’re not happy with your living in the physical world, you would have a look around in another universe. Our cradles are real fancy. Life is real fancy too, and no pain. Orti 80 story is all well secured, you can’t just fall out.

Every town is quite a few levels underground too, so except plate tectonics, where they mind to avoid locations, there’s hardly anything to make the structures unstable.

They would use sonics to avert big storms or tornadoes, but they don’t even really have those tornadoes, as their weather has not changed in millennia; they have no “hot-house effect”, and tall built of cities prevents strong weather fronts from forming. Through a “tree-house honey comb”, winds blow to disperse. Inland, winds compare with earthly Skyrim ambience, some 12:08 in the movie here, only Orti living standards are a lot better than the Skyrim game. Orti say, for the quality of living, Skyrim is good to see as an ode for cottage cheese, you know, how you’d miss it if you couldn’t have it. Orti are not much into wind-power electrics, with their hydro and solars.

Oh, if you use sonics, a cyclone might “make a whale”, so they care for the splash not to be close to a city rig. They don’t have weather for an omen from God. They say, God does not make the storm; let the human know it is his or her power to act in a natural environment, and he or she will, if the means are provided.

They make plenty of waterfalls, advanced Feng Shui you could say. There’s probably no city without two or three big water channels, so you could live “off grid” in a town too, and many people are quite independent for energy, though the grid is still there just in case, in the rigging. There’s no housing unit without hydro and solar energy storage, and roofs are all made of photovoltaics. They wouldn’t sell you another tile. Should there be a disaster and get you short of charge, shops sell extra, size of watch batteries, and these just add polarization, but shortages actually don’t happen, so it is a state requirement for shops to have those. Some people have mineral shine furniture too: especially in their front or back yards; it’s regular during the day and gives off some shine in the evening and night.

Ortis work the four elementary forms for physics, see below for the 4th phase of water. Already ancient Greeks spoke about it on Earth. Orti decor is mostly polymer, some use fractal design, sure fancy for a place as ancient as Akrotiri, wouldn’t you say? Compare the Akrotiri cast for a table. It is evidently a fractal design.

Altogether, you could say their civilization is a bit like Earth might have been, had Greeks been let alone and going on with their progress. Orti never believed in a Sun-god, and never crucified a teacher; they never had ancient Egyptian or Roman empires. Their cities are spectacular — developed with physics simply for physics, without calling for God. They say Earth must have had a book on physics, too.

Akrotiri cast of a table, Wikimedia

Oh, and waterfalls never go 80 down straight, of course. Most are decorative too, plants in water sound images, see more from KYMAT on Earth. Orti people meditate in city paths, the music over there is ambient, quiet like little creeks.

Waste disposal? Household waste units have sorting capsules; you close them off and dispose as in a “pneumatic tube“, so you never get any odor or anything lingering. Sewage is built into the rigging, but that’s mostly for kitchen, laundry, or showering water waste, because “other things” go into household molecular disintegrators. Those make another kind of capsule in your waste, biologically neutral. You get it out closed automatically, from the machine. Orti molecular recycling extracts water back as pure H2O; only those “other things” get neutralized dry. You know, with earthly sewage you’re always on a lot, you know what I mean.

A household disintegrator is an egg-shape device in your bathroom. It couldn’t disintegrate a chicken, for example, but it does all it takes with what it has been designed for. Egg shape is a safety precaution for what there goes on inside, under atmospheric pressure. One ordinary chicken egg can take about 2 kilo weight on without breaking, under regular atmospheric pressure on Earth too.

If you don’t do a few simple relaxation exercises morning and evening, they take it, you’re seriously depressed. It’s so important to the body and mind. All towns have lots of green, all the more in suburbs. You don’t have parks, because you live like in a nature park. They’ve learned to control rooting, so you can have trees at higher levels, like well-grown bonsai, and the roots would be working around the rigging (making it stronger, while providing humidity) and shooting leaves; a pretty, decorative effect. They can mix mint, eucalyptus, pine — into one tree: it’s like living essential oils, plenty of fresh air. I bet you never smelled tea rose blackcurrant tree leaves after rain (no thorns). Orti don’t do genetic engineering on food: they believe in Nature and Man.

They also have you for kinds of literally crazy if you don’t have supplements, vitamins and minerals. How do you hope to eat enough to provide this all? They joke, earthlings have advertisement to promote enriched baby food. Do they hope to be less of a baby (in body), when grown-up?

Contrary to earthlings, there’s no pressure on people to have “libidos”. No Freud ever happened to them, they say, and Live Free is their motto. They honestly cannot see any business one earthling could have with another “libido”, so they leave it at earthly peculiarity. They have access to earthly publications like we do. They believe and we believe it’s not espionage.

The have one or two kids, for good soul kin. It takes quality time to have soul kin with your kid, and one’s gotta live own life as well, they say too. Free education. Voluntary participation in government. Open and honest about any government commitment. They don’t have the classified information problem with their kids, as some earthlings do. Their science on the partible matter, as matter is on Earth too, is a festival; it’s not classified weapons because they live like in one country on the entire planet. They can prevent any snooping around, so they can show the people what they got, safe way of course.

They love liquid carbon, for example, and light speed communications. For carbon, there’s always the intermediate state, you only need to catch it, they say. Earthlings claim, at Earth atmospheric pressure — it transitions directly from solid to gas without an intermediate liquid stage. Bunkum, Orti say. For the particle, there’s always the solid-liquid-gas, however it does not render the elementary forms, as a drop for water, and can be real quick. Unless you mean an non-particle carbon state, which they doubt could work in a physical world, you’re bunkum.

“Do they have to wear biological implants or anything like, for state security?”

Laughable. Earthling sci-fi. No. Put it under your skin, or put it under your carpet, they say. They have chips that fit with personal items, watches, bracelets, rings, for ID and cash. They wouldn’t do anything to compromise personal integrity, as go under the skin, for mundane things. Basically, your soul is you, your true identity: you don’t take your passport with you when you die on Earth either, do you?

Cemeteries? They don’t have those. Remains get cremated and disposed of. The difference from Earth is that many people know the soul is already in the After, when they get the ashes. Some people keep virtual reality “places of late”, where they post memories and thoughts about the deceased.

Orti don’t have the earthly madness about studying the body, medical and other experimentation. Many things that you have on Earth, you have those because Earth lost communication with the After, and there’s no guaranteed, basic income. You don’t have these problems among Orti. For example, you learn on Earth that nirvana as freedom from suffering may come only when you die. Orti practice mind immersion, balance in physical exercise, nourishment, and environmental factors. They decide all of these on their own, and this gives them a perceivable sense of inner harmony. They even wouldn’t take narcotics (you asked before), as that might interfere with the fine-tune of the nervous system, and this is the nervous system to produce the harmonious and balanced state. It is not anything to come from outside the body.

In comparison, earthlings look focused on making one another imbalanced, and calling this emotionality, also if vegetative. It does not make a good impression on Orti.

Orti care for fitness and health, good own shape, but overall, the body is just the mortal makeup: it makes sense only as long as one lives, nobody there ever has wanted to live forever, knowing there is the After, so they say the body may return among natural elements, after death. Feelings are not vegetative, they say, because vegetative means bodily. If feelings were vegetative, you’d be leaving all your feelings behind, moving on to the After, and people in the After have feelings, they’re only never pain and so absolutely different from many places people on Earth would think you should feel. Pain is just bodily signal for tissue malfunction.

Orti death is their moving on to our After, mostly assisted, no pain; except accidents, which might happen, Orti are always voluntary. It feels good to be bright, and the mortal body has its limitations, so around 120, with their box, they arrange with us. It happens the family waits to hear their loved ones are OK on our side. It’s an important journey, so we attend voluntarily.

“How do they know they are not cheated or deluded?”

Through the box, we tell them if someone wants to manifest or “publish” to the physical world, and they can see that from their outer space observatories. We try to make a trinket every 30 years at least. We agree on a spot out there, and then they can see the change.

There’s hardly crime on Orti planets. People prefer to report problems, as those mostly belong with the body, and the thought is, you shouldn’t let that impede your chances in the After.

They wouldn’t have earthling suicide stats about sex prowess either. With them, it is up to yourself to decide if there is a problem, as long as you don’t breach on other people’s rights, so if you don’t feel like sex, you don’t have it. It’s no matter for religion, as celibacy, though most Ortis abstain for some time, to get to know the body and self, they say, especially before they enter a serious relationship; they’re mostly monogamous. There’s never been a case of euthanasia over that part, though you could ask for it. They also have mineral treatments; it’s bodily circulation after all. You can live on your own as well, if you like. Live free, be yourself, they always say.

Homosexuality? Take it or leave it, hardly. Maybe it’s their ecology, protein nutrition, family size, or it is the individualism they acquire in early years already, with their wallets and choice on personal progress. Ars amandi matters a lot, but they don’t contend; there’s nothing more ruinous to intimacy than breach; they don’t believe there ever was a paradise you’d live nude. They take it, the body is mortal, there is love in the After, and you can feel, so think own preference. A physician would say, as in the TED below, mother nature would have done away with homosexuality for species like human long ago. How do you know she didn’t?

In all honesty? They believe many homosexuals have not had ars amandi experience good enough. Otherwise, they would have been friends with their earthling homosexual partners, and lovers with the best of their intimate experience, heterosexual. Fancy comes with the heterosexual: difference, you know. And you sure can believe a kiss on a fresh washed-armpit. Right, delicate massage on the chest is not beyond wits either. There are books and movies about that on Earth. Sometimes we wonder, if vampire stories wouldn’t reflect on a kiss on the neck: a sensitive human area, so it would be anathemized, as it can feel good whoever does it right. What is clear to Orti and us alike, anal sex (parental advisory) cannot be clean. You know what comes out there. Trying to have pleasure with it is not healthy, so some homosexuals are never going to make sense, also in the After.

Orti know there are fluctuations on Earth; more people are gay, then fewer people are gay. Orti do not exclude on personal grounds, from school or other activity. They let life take its course. Live free and be yourself, they’d tell you. Well, they don’t provide partners. You might doubt, but on their planets they don’t have many homosexuals or actually at all, and the don’t have cancer, try the two videos here.

And Orti have humor; the body is but a “packaging” for the soul. People with disabilities are not considered inferior spiritually, so actually they are not.

Oh, and there is the matter about staple foods. Did you know that starch kills brains, it’s not only about hypoglycemics hating potatoes because of insulin surges. The lower parts potentially suffer too, so this is another factor.

Prostitution? Not really. With their standard of living, it is well, physiologically dirty; but people can live according to preference, so if someone decided they like many partners, they’d go live in an area where there are more such people, and it must be that it works, because there’re no red-light districts as such. Those suburbs usually have motifs, not sexual, but exponential, so you’re never in the dark, moving home. It could be reindeer symbols; so you go an area and you see reindeer symbols around; but you can become part the culture only if you live there, and it’s never as trade for money. Reindeers are not so taxonomic over there too, they say, as Mallory and Hills would explain for Earth.

Everywhere on their planets, kids can move to live with other kids, or to live on their own, age 17, which is also their age of competence, as the “age of consent” is on Earth. In the After, you can’t keep anybody either. They can vote, drive vehicles, etc. age 19. All ages, non-consensual behavior is illegal.

No, they don’t mirror to Earth, and they don’t have Christmas or Easter, they have Winter and Spring Festivals. Shortest and longest of days, everybody likes some holiday. More than week of festivity, like Christmas, Brazilian and Chinese New Year together, in winter. Three times a year actually, just the end of summer and beginning of fall they call it the Cue. All are of seasonal character, winter, spring, summer/autumn. Ortis always make and give presents on their own. It’s no earthly Santa, but probably more presents.

I have asked them about reindeers and Santa. They never have any “invisible hand”, even for things supposedly good. All experiments they’ve ever learned about, to include the “circular driving”, had some “invisible hand”, so they reject such ideas. They say it is no good thought, to bring children up telling them there would be an “invisible hand”, an incognito actually figure outside any family or group of friends they know, and a flying reindeer could bring it. There’s no invisible hand in the After, and psychologically such beliefs are only bad influence, so they don’t adopt anything of it at all. They simply have reindeers on their planets, and they can’t be looking everything up with Earth.

Their stats for child molestation are actually null, zero, niente. They say it is all the freedom they have and also the mindset, to make the result. They know about the sad earthly stats, for churches too.

Military? Yes, Orti have forces, but with their advanced interference technologies, it is nothing of a blood-spilling business, because they have patterned after us. No battlefield combat, this means. For Earth, imagine troops are gathered to go out in the field. Ortis would put them to sleep: you can’t keep an eye open, with the ENS on brains. It takes a special helmet and suit, but then, they might come round, while the opponent are still under, take their weapons, and leave each a little cockade. Their ENS does not injure brains; meets the requirement as in that Merchant of Venice, a body part is “taken” without a drop of blood, and more, without any damage. ENS is part humorous, for Extremely Natural Sleep. All parts are well returned, of course.

Their monitoring technologies allow audio as well as retinal viewing, so if they want to, they always know the plan, whatever you talk about, whatever you see. I don’t say it was them, but this is how you could imagine their activity; they are allowed that for military purposes. They don’t want earthling war technologies make anything like too much of a bang for the cosmos to be happy. Otherwise, civilizations are not supposed to spy one on another. It would be unfair, and intellectual property is a natural right, Thomas Paine had a few good thoughts, like intuitions about the After really. Orti interference could do the things reported in earthling news.

Air Force lost communications with their nukes for nearly an hour in 2010, CNN.

Missiles went into “a no-go” or “unlaunchable” condition, CNN

No, Orti don’t do the spilling of blood with school shootouts in the US. That would be a breach against their arrangements with the After and Gods. Heaven says, if you drive a person with methods for remote control, especially if you limit the person’s judgment, as impeding on the brain, you’re the perpetrator to any wrong: nothing of the sort would have happened without your pushing for it; the person would have been doing something else. We believe it is justice, and Orti do agree: in the same time span, there would have been something different going on. For some cases, this means no shots fired.

This is why Barabbas is in one of our cradles. He was such a remote, non-technological but a behaviorist ancient Roman experiment, and he had no way out. Later, earthlings happened to have it for circular driving, kind of roundabout of injuries, threats, conditions, and demands. Obviously, we don’t recognize merit about befuddling brains, so we call such developments Paidoc (after Bokmål, sort of), and we do not welcome such drivers. For the person to have been used, it may be many years in a cradle of worse quality, which is known around as inferno on the other hand, but they are not shunned into the eternal mist.

No, our Infernos don’t burn you on coals. Only give you plenty of time to think and consider. One day, you may be given a chance to move on to a better cradle. This means you’d be leaving whatever you have built of that worse matter behind. You’re encouraged to think about things you would stay with forever, and how you could. You always are your own Self, but you can decide what it means to you. To learn and remember, your soul is enough around here. You probably don’t imagine how many people go study and meditation. That you can always take with you and continue.

If some RF operators might end up in the eternal mist? Yes. It goes for deviant around here, to be “digging human tissue”, so again, nobody wants you. If you’re one of the perpetrators, your victim aware of it or not, all the more, the mist might be your destination. We’ve heard, bodily impressions that radio digging causes happen to be really disgusting, some “slow” or “manner”, and “mechanistic”.

Oh yes, you can be aware and conscious on Earth, of course. The matter is if you had a way out, if the deed or act agreed with you, in some cases, whatsoever. It couldn’t be witty to expiate some people to have tried radios just because they wanted to play, and to shun those who had no way to get rid of those stimuli, debilitating and physically painful. Of course there’s no God or supernatural in any RF frequency. Earthly radio is physics. It may “trigger” human bodies not only a bit, because the biology depends on intrinsic feedback and radios are capable of interfering that (radios can cause pain, and it’s unrealistic to expect of a human body to become pain-proof), but this is all: nothing to wonder about; for science and biology, you could try a rabbit — and simply forbid any such frequencies except war zones, maybe.

This is how classifying information may act against the society; the people would be completely unaware and thus vulnerable. I’ve told you, Orti don’t allow many earthly frequencies in their air space; it would be too much to mind and look after, with all the potential for breach on individual people, and there might be earthly locks and RF in earthly shootouts.

Source: HUDs

You see, modern earthly target locks don’t require that you’re made of metal, have electronic chips, or fly at all. It’s enough the object moves, for the tracking to follow wherever the tech range on Earth, and there’re no humans never to move, or to move as fast as to escape..

If to lock a human and continue beaming on them, you could bet it is going to change their behavior, and you don’t need anything extraterrestrial for it.

So to speak, you could even have a “school” of targets, dependent on your technology, that is, a group of people under your tech. And you could leave them “boiling” without supervision, to break them. The thing is not time-expensive to yourself, that is, and US Air Force are not the only option, for altogether presence in the US skies.

To plan elaborately and never to prepare for escape — it’s awful strange for a human statistic, and this is what happens with most shootout assailants: they end the act shooting themselves in the head; they don’t try to escape. It’s like a human… after some longer time in a target lock, the accounts are so weak on motive.

“I don’t think die Luft would be in it”.

I actually don’t think so either. I only say, there is a scent of a factor. Things may only happen to be true in movies, but think about this “element of truth” here:
It’s funny how all living organisms are alike: when the chips are down, when the pressure is on, every creature on the face of the Earth is interested in one thing, and one thing only — own survival, says Iris Hineman if you remember the Minority Report, around 7:07 below.

I cannot agree on the future, it is not as foreseeable as some would maybe dream, brain injury certainly does not open any view to the future, and I might skip the definite article before Earth while talking and thinking on itself, but school shootout assailants would be very exceptional with regard to biological thirst for life. Yet I cannot tell I know, as I never was with any such arrival around here, in the After.

If you were a conscious and willful shooter at a massacre? You go into the eternal mists most probably. Other people are not your expression, this is one of the most important things to understand here. You can’t just take another and use them to express yourself. There never have been volunteers, for what I know.

Hellraiser“: they want your skin and say, “nothing personal, baby”.

You’re making a point. Initially shootouts were “personal business”, might have happened anywhere else; the school was just a place a person could be found. To go to a school and shoot like to make a manifesto, these are later developments. Would progress with radios have been just concomitant?

Oh, and these movie fantasies have nothing in common with our cradle. We tell fine differences already. The stuff was altogether too disgusting for me to look at it entire; I mostly only heard text, as I happen to do other things while rendered material is on. We can render audio and video from the physical universe into our matter. Authors don’t mind unless they want to bury a thing, as they can’t take a copy with them when they die, and I don’t know what the fate of the “Hellraiser” is going to be.

Besides, the US education system is not the worst on Earth, so why should Ortis or anyone be so “critical”? We are not. Some people try their best there. One prominent difference would be however that Orti kids have to be at school or schools for a few years, be it 4 or 5 at least, and all are offered free follow-up with education. I hope you can agree that successful artists, inventors, and businesspeople alike, are basically people who were not inhibited in freely following up with own interests when young. Second, they get their minimum pay “to hand”, their bank account that is, and though they can get help with that, beginning age 7 or 8 they learn to manage cash prior to any age earthlings happen to become addicts or homeless. Math at school is not anything abstract; it’s learning to be own accountant too. Families often have bank “pockets” to pay bills, and everyone has own cash; a personal account is as a wallet. All kids are registered with the state.

Impeded kids? Many fewer than on Earth. Healthier lifestyle and cleaner environment, but if this happens, the kid gets assistance throughout lifespan.

If you were mad and made such a “manifesto”, what would we say in the After? There’s no such healthcare in this universe. Would you claim irreparable insanity, to try to emigrate to another country? But we don’t believe you ever go as mad as to become unable to tell between yourself and another person. Advanced madness let us say, you still never see as if another person would be yourself — to get cash or another reward you like, for example? — and as well you never see yourself in another person’s body; someone eating salmon does not make yourself nourished. Always Here, we humans have been to our Selves. We always know other people are other people, and the simple thing is, don’t try to use other people for your expression. You’re free to use yourself, of course, try not to offend the shape.

Going together into the After? Getting out of the physical universe is part physical. Part it is spiritual, but every atomos is individual, so even if you held hands with another, you go individually when dying. Always Here, in a way. But there’s no better deal than individual, for routes and peripetia. Orti go individually too, so we assist. But they still have the box that is forfeit on Earth. The one to talk with us time and again. They don’t have to depend on guesswork or intuition. They know.

Mental disturbance? Orti believe there is not really an illness of the soul, there or on Earth. PTSD is adrenaline flashbacks; depression is mostly serotonin uptake dysfunction; all so-called “mental disturbance” has a bodily cause, so they treat the matter as such. Fact is, if you stop being serotonin dysfunctional, you don’t have the low mood anymore, whatever psychologically you’d associate with the low, so they don’t believe in psychoanalytic treatment; to them, psychoanalysis is exercise at tripartite setting scenarios, maybe of limited use for creativity, but they have better; and they wouldn’t merely make you swallow serotonin; they’d advise on supplementation, exercise, meditation, for your body to return to normal levels. Nobody is born depressed, they say. Earthlings wouldn’t believe how much of their suffering comes with simply potassium or magnesium deficiency, like nutrition and supplementation would be worth the while, but only provided that you feed an infant.

Orti political system? Global democracy. The highest and best, provided you get it right and have it right, they say.

Orti physical space flight? Like a stone surf on water, or you call it ducks, advanced as can be. Progress mostly by spontaneous invention.

“Why are they more advanced? Is it genetic?”

That’s the thing. It’s not. They say earthlings are like they’d rather eat a manual than use it; Aristotle they mean. But if earthlings mean the myth of salvation as telling they’d rather eat one of them Orti, they could be violent to answer. And well, they are really more advanced.

“You say, myth of salvation; do you mean Earth is doomed?”

Earth has been as it has been, since own beginning. The Sun, other stars, moons, or planets, as where earthlings or physical other people live, they never needed human sacrifice, as no such ritual ever could do anything about celestial existence. God never has changed in regard of celestial objects. Only earthlings would be causing doubt, frustration, sometimes anger. An act itself never exists without the doer having given origin to it at least. Crucifixion alone, without any activity or even picture ever, what would that be? For a picture alone, you need someone to paint or draw it.

God is perfectly balanced. It does not mean God could not make decisions. It does not mean God makes earthlings do what earthlings do. All ritual to have blood symbols, or those for flesh, are human. They don’t come from God.

“Do Orti believe in miracles?”

Miracles? Maybe only the Cats would play in such a manner, to show how vainglory earthlings can be: to believe God looked, but did not look to other people, looked only to them, and all that in praise for earthling belief in the sacrifice of the son. The Cats are an inferno and they might seek harmless fun sometimes. They’re only not allowed to damage the physical world or anyone in it. Their argument is, if God looked, it would have been approval for Nazi concentration camps, so nobody around here holds it against them, if they “bollock” the believers. It is really not true that if you’re important on Earth, you are important in the After. There’s no ladder for the clouds, you know; it’s a good Orti saying.

And whatever it is about earthlings and clairvoyance and illness: in earthling history, in times of agitated or elevated belief in clairvoyance, there is always illness, and the thing starts with clairvoyance, not the illness, as the bubonic. Earthly Cicero wrote there’s nothing as demoralizing to humans as belief in destiny, or so it would be boiling down. Maybe it is something in human mentality, as people saying, its going to be the future anyway, so why bother, and they have less self-care.

Orti say, whatsoever, no. Their planet as well as Earth and the physical universe — are not, to use earthly words, computationally a closed set. This means the future is pretty much an open context, provided you don’t exaggerate on contingencies, and they have reduced poverty as such to actually zero, to live free. You can just heal, in such circumstances, or you even never fall ill. For other things they say, a wheel turns because it is a wheel, not because it is destiny.

They say it is fair that their government allows 3D print of commodities dirt cheap. Some 3Ds are self-service, they don’t require supervision, if they fail, it’s once in more than 10 years: so why should the government capitalize on a computer that just does its thing? That’s how their economy is different. People buy because people have money. Their budget is not as earthling: to pay a lot for housing, fossil fuel, and processed food, then to have just a bit for knowledge, fun, entertainment, art, traveling and meeting people. This means one very powerful factor for illness is not present: stress.

3D self-service? You want a cup. You press a button for the design panel or feed your own pattern in, and the polymer is ready for you in more or less a minute, for literally a dime. Ecological polymer, high quality, but these are also computers to make those. You don’t have shops other than artist and designer, around there. And yes, you could have a 3D print designer couch, wardrobe; it’s just about self-service isles and transportation, where you go for what. All cities have guide info on that, and most people book the time.

Most artwork is available as NFT; you can pay some time to have it displayed in your home, or purchase objects and rights.

On Earth it would be mostly earthling RF and electromagnetic analogy, “to make things happen” and pretend destiny also on art, they say. Earthlings look believers in some “collective unconscious” still, and the process impedes the actual skill to make a work of art.

It was some time ago, an earthling arrived into the After and asked about own earthly experience; Orti emphasized, they didn’t know all the earthly techno, but that case was most probably earthly RF, and they never had been involved. She said she became able to put her ideas to completion only after she moved away from her country of origin. There, she was weak, sleepy, pained and tired or irritated, and she could not see anything to cause that.

Earthly RF and attire is a monkey business, say Orti outside formal contexts; the technologies are potentially injurious to brains, disgustingly cruel; they are “Earth”, in short. Orti don’t have that on their planets. They truly think mortal life is a stage. It is not pre-destined.

There would be plenty of trash, people just making cups and other stuff for no reason? You must be thinking earthlings before phone booths. I’m joking. No, Orti wouldn’t sit by a 3D machine to be making plenty for no use, just as earthlings wouldn’t stay by a phone booth a lot, however calls are not so expensive on Earth, and you could even have a phone book. Trashing is a very expensive offense on every Orti planet.

“Do they mate or make friends with earthlings here, in the After?”

Thomas Paine complained about it; never, though they do with people from other planets; those don’t befriend or mate with earthlings either. This is why we are having the matter under consideration; what to do about Earth. Wherever from in the physical universe you are, you don’t have to spend eternity with your contemporaries, so it is some kind of aversion against the planet, with only a few exceptions throughout history. Maybe it is about earthly behaviorism.

“Maybe earthlings don’t understand why they’re left alone, and why they should live a limited reality without any view or prospect about the After.”

If you made earthlings like a tour guide about the After, you’d have suicide on Earth in unprecedented proportion, and we generally don’t accept suicides, it could be only exceptions. Orti live a much better standard and they have euthanasia, because people don’t want to live against odds that may distress their souls in a way to last in the After. You don’t have to live old, ill, crippled, debilitated, of no prospect for your soul to progress anymore, and vegetative. We accept those decisions.

But fair and square, many people here have not been guided, and they never had a celestial nanny, and they all were mortal, physical universe beings. They all cared to look to own soul and think. They read books and reckoned. Intellectual progress in the mortal life is not irrelevant. It matters in the After. It is fair to ask why earthlings should be privileged over that. Should they?

For the eternal fog, the unshaped pragma, yes, you can end your soul existence and your Self. Let us say you call for it from the eternal mist and the guy comes to help you disjoin from the tree of life, as Plato did put it, but you change your mind. You’re free to remain in the unshaped, having had three calls altogether. So if you call twice, as to see a shape like a human face, you’re going to be ceased forever if you call the third time.

Just as we don’t have gallows, we don’t have select executioners. Everyone is part in answering the Unshaped calls. If it happens that your earthly or former family member calls, and you don’t feel like doing the cessation, you may ask for replacement. But with all that people get to know in the After about those they previously lived with, and we can witness that also with our judgment, many just do not care for “biokin”. You see, the cessation is something those people really want, after their time in the Unshaped.

Whereas we have to do the cessation, it meets all requirement for humanitarian causes, we do not know what the fate of capital punishment would be on Earth, if the earthling awareness embraced the fact that actually, you’re all in it, however you designate executors.

Our thing is more of disconnecting a person who say they are not viable. In the Unshaped hardly anyone is, but our rules are simple, don’t rape, ransack, rob and like, as I’ve told you. You could probably compare life support on Earth, only it’s not literally life support in the After, you’re not on life support here; the disconnection is from yourself, and you don’t exist anymore.

Nobody ever, on the other hand, went into the fog just to keep with their family, and I think it’s not likely to happen. The “foggies” are rapists, robbers, murderers, and such types that cradles would be more likely to accept people judged of treason. Well, so much for Bonnie and Clyde. The pragma watermark is quite exact in showing interaction or development between two entities, like between two people on Earth; it marks violent events. Those two BCs asked for cessation though they could have been holding hands forever, and had it done, were ceased. Plenty of violence on other souls, and they probably never thought it’s one-to-one in a way, always and every time. It’s only not barcode. As a former soldier, you may meet a few people here. You’re not a BC because you were military, but it is welcome that you meet those you killed, those that are here. You don’t need to come to terms. Just meet. We believe it’s better to know each other.

Yes, cessation is as the eternal death, to regard the fact that the soul does not live or exist anymore, but mind you, the process requires that the soul asks for it, expressis verbis. Fair and square, all cradles need to be able to live and function without supervision, so they can’t allow some types, and the fog is difficult to bear; it’s like nothing going on all the time. You can stay in it long as you like; millennia; billions of years; but if you call for cessation, it’s thrice you have. Would people live with “Bonnies and Clydes” on Earth? No. So why should the After be considered cruel. On the other hand, we mind to have no cessation requests in cradles, because it would be bad statistic, to talk earthly terms, and we’re proud there has not been even one in our cradle.

Hitler? No, he does not exist anymore. No cradle wanted him. Barabbas continues to self-isolate in one of the cradles. He was sure a Roman army experiment. Sodom and Gomorrah might have been a Roman experiment too.

The ancient Judean teacher, Hesus? We don’t know where he is. Maybe in Heaven all the time. Earthly developments about him also were not pretty, so we’d rather not dig into the matter. It’s horror to us, the nails, the blood, and crucified ingravitation, as you couldn’t pin a human being to a cross in such a manner, because they would fall off under gravity; and the ritual blood drinking some join, symbolically, but they do, every week for mass — whereas after all, if you get here, and from here to Heaven, and he wants to meet you when you want to meet him, you will, right?

To help you understand in earthly terms, we’re next door with Gods. I’m not sure what the law on Earth would be, if you were neighbors with you boss so to speak, though it’s friendship or good acquaintance pretty much around here, but you had weekly meetings to show symbolic drinking of his son’s blood? And eating some of his body too. Kind of worse still, Gods, the two, are nice and intelligent, and non-destructive, so why would you do that? People really like them around here, so Orti are saying, they cannot pull a curtain on Earth, so they put it under infinitude.

Humans are not naturally cannibals, if this is the ritual idea. Connection to northern Europe maybe, about Hesus and the supper, the dumb Celt worship for “human food”: importantly, the cannibalism came with ideas for something “above human”; it never has been simply and naturally human, to eat people. What we believe is natural, most people would be disgusted a bit at least, at the idea to eat human flesh. That’s OK. Human flesh would be speciate matter, and you know about the pygmy quotient. By the way, have earthlings asked themselves the question, the body Hesus offered, the ultima coena, was maybe a body of his works rather than flesh? The dumb or the witty Celt, that could make a difference, dumb or witty does.

Orti would be mad angry, if you tried to prove them cannibal.

Oh, and yes, I know this rumor or joke, that there’s fog in the After a steampunk Deutsch would look salvation from. Well, in truth, Germans are not Baden; they’re so to speak SaxonyWürttemberg, all around, so there’s no steampunk salvation or cradle, and nobody’s so political. Read through history and draw relevant conclusions; well, relevante Schlussfolgerungen.

We’re not nationalist around here. Earth is the past, so it is. Orti live on their planet without division to nationalities, and they have plenty of languages. Kind of Swiss, only all over a planet. Their globe is more cared for, because it does not have earthling problems and flaws. Again, nobody hopes for Earth to change, though a soul is a soul, whatever the mortal skin.

If a cradle could fall, owing to earthly developments? No, you don’t need to worry about us. We’re a actually well out of reach, and you can’t learn about us unless we let it, because there’s no reincarnation. Souls become in biological bodies, live after the body dies, and never get “recycled”. You could think about flowers, but flowers are to yield fruit, and souls can just be, without yielding anything. It’s simply a plenty of everything, around here.

Think about biologically Two to become One in a mutual act of love (earthlings name it plainly conception, but we know that Gods did it and continue to love each other, so we tend to choose our words); they beget a new biological life and that life starts a soul — own soul, own One — forever. A child of two parents, as it has been among people on Earth too.

Funny thing sometimes, they say around here, how earthly religions would look like people seeking a way to cheat the Heaven gates. Christianity would have someone else than “the Father” to judge on them, an “appointed Son”. People here in the After think, it’s like there was something wrong with some earthly origin or source, or maybe, the priesthood decided to change their reference, from original to interpretation, version, or another copy. There is no text by the Christos in the New Testament.

Buddhism would purport “reincarnation” — “helluva peripetia” for traveling the universes, unless you are God, the Father or Mother Creator who knows how to make or actually create paths, our present time and recognition for merit.

There is not really any way to cheat the gates. Whether you believe it on Earth or not, pragma shines at the After bay, and shows. We have judgment, a due process with God present, if a person does not affirm on his or her pragma. We don’t say “pragma” for Buddhism; it is for matter as different from partible physical realities like Earth. The word comes from Greek.

I’ll show you what an ugly soul may look at our bay. Humor is around here, he was “a Créçois“. Fussel, you might say, farfocel. Well, really a guy of old who’d done a bad thing to another. But this is not as bad still; he looked this, went to an inferno, but then improved. When darkness has a defined shape, the wrong was purposed and for own satisfaction, there may be nowhere else but the misty Elysees for the soul. Darkness is not the same as dark color, good souls have those too.


Yes, it is true you cannot take your earthly riches with you to live here, but we do not require of anyone to live poor, or in privation, whatsoever. This here looks an Orti toy. They use such to tell their kids about mineral kinetics, metals, and conductivity. Earthlings say the toy shows that Santorini was certainly evacuated. Yes, it was. I told you. Grown-up earthlings have done research on brine and electrics too, only it’s about things more critical; the Orti goat has four legs and a pair of horns close together.


“Earthlings don’t do the sun beaming anymore”.

But it’s secret and transposed into religion (again, to accuse God of mass executions), whereas earthlings do a lot of other kinds of beaming, knowing it’s abuse. And if earthlings could, they’d be bringing earthly matter to the After. Orti wouldn’t. The gold is a toy.

They don’t have gold parity for their economy. They say, the overall amount of gold that could be gained also from outer space is too unpredictable, and planetary natural resource distribution too uneven, for a stable global economy. Their median is a set value, for fair trade: if you had plenty of gold everywhere, bronze would be of higher monetary quote. So the credit is legally required to be able to purchase, rather than refer to, well, metal. They live their physical lives primarily to nurture their souls before the After. To have kids, new souls, is more of the little extra.

The partible, earthly matter is of no use here in the After. It disintegrates. You can have a whale of belongings with the forever after; create gardens and even palaces or planets if you like, but as on Earth, as here, you should not do harm to another, especially for belongings. What happens here, people go sublime rather than much in quantity. Neighbors may like to come have a look at the detail, intricacy, if the design author allows. And mostly it is allowed, so we have plenty to see.

“Aren’t Orti afraid they’d get lonely, to be such individualist with regard to children?”

You’re a typical earthling. Children, your children as well, are not your property. They do not exist for a purpose of yours, as to keep you company. They exist for own purpose. Everybody exists for own purpose. Good soul kin always acknowledges that, and it is not a craving; it is as the Grecian knead: a simple, straightforward pattern of two definite and individual shapes together. Plus, it’s impossible to be alone in the After if you don’t want to.

This guy here has created herself a star and a planet, in pragma environment, and manifested it to the physical world. We’ve asked if we could come see; waiting for her answer.

Celestial event; source: NASA

I can tell you more about our haven. Time is flow as perceived. If you choose not to mind, there’s no flow of this earthly sort around here. There is forever, eternity, or timelessness. We keep holidays, and this is all our calendar.

“Could I ask you, does suffering purify the soul? Are you here in the After because you have suffered?”

Whatsoever. Pain is no ticket, and you don’t have wrong done to yourself to amend for wrongs done to another. Infernos give you all the time in the universe to think and act accordingly. This is the way to reform the soul: yourself looking to it. The inferior quality and status of the cradle is quite some punishment, but you’re not abused.

Imagine two men get stranded on an island too far away from anywhere on Earth, for them to return to their previous lives. One develops craft, builds, grows crops, invents and improves. The other just whips himself. Which would you say uses his wit right? For the After to make sense, we cannot forbid wits.

“Do Ortis have religion?”

Religion is a way as devised by people other than yourself, would you agree, also to earthly experience. Orti are quite literate in religions, but they seek own, individual spirituality. It helps a lot in the After, as we don’t prescribe on belief. Their souls are unique, often beautiful, see here just for comparison, as it’s a fractal image and souls are not fractals, but how do I show the impression for Earth. Their souls truly are dynamic, good with verb pragma, and capable of creating geometry, well, even without our bay they can shine. They have own light and need no given crayon. This one is also able to travel cradles and decide own shape and color. Could travel to the Unshaped and make it out, look to the square, the same soul in both pictures. Unable, you’d end up stuck in the Unshaped.

“What do I look to you?”

If you decide to learn, you can become like the Orti here. Earthlings can be like that too. Able.

“Did Bonnie and Clyde get terminated by a soul like this?”

Termination is not the purpose for soul ability. Bonnie and Clyde called for the end. They could not take it any longer in the Unshaped. Yes, a soul like above disjoined them from the tree of life; but all souls in our cradle are like this, and some in other cradles too. To read the story of the Kain and Abel, you may think able and can, There’s been no Able to fall from a Kaan, but our ability is not set or decided by people, entities, or factors external to ourselves, the individual.

A Can would be like someone to press a button. An Able would know why and when, if to do it. An Able always has the power the same as a Can, and better knowledge.

Earthlings probably think, afterlife needs to be the opposite of earthly living. They’re mostly wrong on many things, but this one is true. No Able ever fell, opposite to the earthly story. No son or daughter ever killed Gods on the other hand, and it would be mad to suspect the offspring.

For the Unshaped, think about everyday life. Imagine all shape is gone. Would you want to go on?

We could leave the souls nobody wants there, in the Unshaped, but then we’d be leaving them to suffering possibly nobody on Earth imagines enduring. It’s not like an eyesight or brain defect. It is shape having been gone to all your perception and surroundings too. And you can’t die on your own or kill yourself, because your soul is immortal unless, well, disjoined from the tree of life. If they endure, they can stay there. It’s only if they call, they want to be ended, that we come, as we don’t have executioners, it’s joint responsibility, and we end their suffered and suffering existence. We don’t select anyone for dirty hands, like it has happened on Earth. We are all in, with our existence, and Gods approve.”

Do you love your cradle?”

It’s lovely to live here. We love the living, so we love the cradle.

“I mean, is it like national love?”

No, we don’t derive feelings from earthly birth. There’re no inborn feelings anyway. Feelings come to be as you live. Feelings also change. If you compare Earth, people travel or migrate and even change citizenship; in truth, people love good living. It does not change here. Earthlings don’t miss Earth, wouldn’t be rather back there, however good their earthly living was.

If you mean Emily Dickinson, her poetry tells the impossible. It is not advisable to try to have us marching.


We hate rigor, and we can kill an earthling in a moment; I hope this can do for explanation. We don’t want people scared of us, but we have our powers, so we think it is good to tell, for people to be realistic.

“Then, the earthling is at your bay?”

“Killed by an angel” is much worse for status. We’re never easily provoked.

If you gave Earth another planet, only better, like an Orti planet, earthlings would be competing to get there. Pristinely clean environment, flexible housing (Orti travel a lot, maybe I tell you later), guaranteed basic income, cheap goods, plenty of creative tools, freedom and liberty. Their landscapes are unbelievable; where they grow plants or minerals, and natural too. They love water effects or so it looks, as they use water for natural energy too. Some views, we take the pattern and make them here, in the cradle. Their travel… you don’t need to struggle to get a place near a window, as the capsules are transparent and also can transfer visuals, so it is like you swim or sail through landscape. Some routes take you under water and above ground. Most Orti live some time one place and some time other places, to get to know environments, develop ideas, also for eternity to be interesting.

“In dangerous environments as well?”

They hardly have those. They control the environment; exterminated hyenas for example. Dangerous species are in zoos or parks, like in the earthly Jurassic, only for sharks and lions. Did you know that lions can fish? They learn; only on Earth they have other food, so they don’t.

“Is there any way to decide on Earth, what cradle you go, or if to the Unshaped?”

No. Our assessment is different from earthly. It is of the pragma without the body. Earthly assessment is all bodily, especially behaviorist. Useless here. It does not matter in the After, if you had a proper knee jerk.

“What matters?”

Your unconditioned self. The opposite of the earthly “unconditional reflex”.

“If someone is crazy, do they have their pragma still?”

I’ve told you, there are no illnesses of the soul. Earthly madness is all illness of the body. This is why it’s called somatoform more and more. Soma means body. Madness is of a form by the body, not the soul. Everyone learns a way to think, coming here. Everyone has their pragma.

“In the Unshaped, is it possible to adapt, to get to tolerate it?”

Some last longer, some shorter, but we wouldn’t have ever gone there in the first instance, if there had been anyone, even one person in all history, not to have called for termination.

“How do you call for termination or disjoining?”

I can’t tell you that. You learn if it becomes relevant. The signal is specific enough to exclude error, and it is quite some peril, to go there, so you have three times, to call to be ended. We don’t want anyone playing on that. So far, there’s been nobody to love the Unshaped existence, if it is life.

Bonnie and Clyde admitted to what they’d done, and so it looked much enough, that they did it and they were fully aware it was harm. The termination is no pain. It’s end to the pain. There are no entities as Bonnie and Clyde in any universe, any existence, anymore. They wanted to be ended, though in the Unshaped you can do what you like totally, without regard to other people, and for however long. There’s only no shape.

In the After, it could be very uncomfortable, if a soul jumped on you without your allowing it, and similar, so nobody wants people who likely would do that, and you could say those, Bonnie and Clyde, were “all jumps” throughout their lives. They ended up in the mists. No cradle allowed them in. Their pragma had marks from all the other souls, people on Earth at the time, they physically abused. Ugly and spotty mess, they both were.

We know about the line of argumentation, that circumstances made people, but if this would be true, there would be no reason to believe in humans as species. We don’t mean torture of course, but humans have overcome many circumstances, and humans are individual. This is why we continue to accept human souls at all. Orti are a great asset, but they are not earthling humans, with their democratic and pain-free living. They created their culture in our liking. And well, Earth would be opposite to us as usual, promoting monarchy, whereas life can be a natural flow or course, physical and After.

Look to the earthly side. Nine police, four civilians were killed in Bonnie and Clyde assaults, says earthly Wikipedia. I’d think, the police are not military, so why not say, nine police, four other citizens. Think more; families, friends, acquaintances: felt some loss, don’t you think? Small shop owners robbed in the time of the Great Depression. Rural funeral homes: sure not affluent, and having to do the job… Nobody cared for Bonnie and Clyde around here, and nobody had any reason to care for them. And people hate to feel loss, whatever inspired Bonnie and Clyde.

“The military are citizens too.”

Mostly; depends on the war. There wouldn’t be anything wrong with saying “military and other citizens”, but there might be something in a country to make that not feel good or right. Microwaves are quite a factor. Targeted use takes physics that mostly is in military hands.

“Giving souls like the Orti all the power, you don’t fear they turn away from you?”

This is the catch exactly. We don’t grant those powers, the soul develops them; and it is only a soul that never would turn away from an angle that we have as well, to be of the talent for the ability. Act of Creation, I guess. We are not scared as we don’t need to fear.

“Has there ever been a war, in Heaven or your cradle?”

Never. We know about those Jewish mostly ideas that “sons of light” would be fighting “sons of darkness” in a battle the Jewish would be fighting along, but you need to understand that flailing a sword is a ridiculous idea, not only to our After. Orti wouldn’t do it either. And well, darkness is not the opposite of light, around here. It is a potentiality where light always can be.

“What happens to the atomos, after the soul is annihilated. You said it was impartible.”

The atomos goes to the nearest brim or wall of the non-physical universe and merges, when the soul disjoins the tree of life. I wouldn’t call it annihilation, but the soul really does not exist anymore.

“Is this why the Jewish have their wall?”

I don’t know, whoever understands their so-called “body language” there; the hip work, you know. There is sure no point doing it at those brims.

“Could the atomos be used for fortifications? You said so yourself, earthlings are suspicious.”

Oh, my bad, sorry, I mean borders rather than walls like on Earth. We don’t need to build up any walls; all non-physical or physical universes as such have not been challenged, and they are not challenging; the limits are a bit as the earthly mathematical limes. you say it like leemez. The atomos merges, it does not add on. We don’t have any business sending people to any walls. It wouldn’t work, and for our interference, the broader our range, the better for us, so we couldn’t need any extra walls.

It only looks like a wall of liquid light. A beautiful thing, but very dangerous, of huge affinity, the outer brim of the cosmos. The Unshaped is kind of insulation, for this affinity not to be of too much influence. The Unshaped does not need souls in, to work. Earthly philosophers pondered what form without shape would be. Experiencing it is hardly endurable, bearable, or choose the word.

“Can your cradle damage Earth?”

I don’t want this to turn into negotiation of threats. Physically, yes, our cradle is capable of interfering earthly physics to the point of annihilation. The limit is not a wall like of bricks, to us. But this is not what we want to believe for necessary. Feel always free to speak your mind.

“How would that interference feel?”

It would not really feel. Have you ever fainted? For earthlings, it would be like loss of sensation, not longer than 15 seconds to physical cessation. Possibly the closest to earthling good natural death, like when you’re old, fall asleep and don’t wake, on earth that is, or in your body anymore.

“Could other cradles do the same?”

We’re sort of boss, on this matter.

“Is it only because you don’t want to believe it for necessary, that you don’t do it?”


“And the non-intervention policy?”

Interference is different from intervention. We are under non-involvement, and capable of interference still. We are never defenseless. But we haven’t ever physically influenced earthlings or Earth, you can tell by Earth remaining in place. We never did any Earl of Essex, though there’s been a Briton to suspect us of some “irony of fate”. We never advise to pardon or forgive rape; it is violation on the soul; it is offense against the eternal.

Orti are disgusted with the barbaric execution on Wallace. It is their school example on earthlings having gone deviant. Their kids wouldn’t come near an earthling, and that started with ancient Egyptians and then the Roman empire. Theory is, humans go awry without actually a view to the After, so Ortis tell their kids not to do ever anything that would be in breach of the deal with God, and earthling malpractice serves example.

By the way, Brits are really lame. Education is a kill as a price in England, and royalists flash loads of no school. Maybe Brit common folk think they couldn’t be big without monarchy, as of the commonwealth Australia, Canada and such, but individually they remain their own Britons of no big cash, and an inferior lifestyle. Orti ask, would you suffer poverty and be part a bigger thing, or rather live well yourself, in a smaller politically structure. Orti kids say, reasonable sizes.

What you need to learn in your mortal life, it is how to be one yourself; not One with other people or their ideas; to be one just by yourself. No Superego, Ego, and Id, just one yourself. Most earthlings call it loneliness, so it is difficult to them, whereas being one is basic for moving about in the After.

It’s fun, but it has worked: focus on your toe, whichever of the big two for ease, for a day. Whatever you do, keep that toe somewhere in mind. Don’t look to it, ever, and see for yourself — you think about a part, but somehow there is your body entire in your thought, and it is not cumbersome.

Rumor is, some English folk say they would’ve been more civil, had they known immortality was real; they still have those extremes of reported speech. Now they can know it is real, can’t they? In a Canadian movie we watched some 2021, 43:38 there, earthling sci fi about UFO that could get you pregnant, a woman came out of a doctor’s office; her fiancee asked her, what did the doctor say? — and she answered: He said I was pregnant, meaning it was a child by that fiancee. She was not one in her mind, to say that.

How we’d normally say it? We have performing arts too, as we never get pregnant. Relevance to your Self is a natural regard. He said I am pregnant, as it continues to make a difference outside of the time span for specific discourse. Immortality lasts longer than a bit of talk too, of course. It is true here as well, and people talk with relevance also on Earth. Talking with relevance is no wrong.

Right, only the same species can procreate together, so UFOs to make you pregnant would have to be human DNA, whatever your reason for odd imagery. You don’t want kids?

If Orti ever crashed on Earth? They don’t crash. Energy of the physical heavens is partible and accompanied by interval, but it’s not divisible, they teach at school. They don’t divide sciences into “strict” or “humanistic”, just as they would not expect of anyone to have math and no language and vice versa. Physical world knowledge is physical world lore, language or math. Fact is, earthly math, chemistry, and physics mostly don’t hold in the After, it’s no longer the physical world; same for medics, you don’t have the physical body; so Orti don’t extoll that, but language is always individual, and they say there’s no need for extolling altogether in life. Fair appreciation is enough. Pythagoras is partible physics triangles, but Shakespeare is earthly contingency turned into verse. Gods prefer intelligent people over sycophants, and some earthly forms of worship look deviant to them, viola, sybils and goats. (Yes, you can have earthly language here and you don’t have to learn a new one.) Stories of hanging gardens, earthly patterning after maybe — all is Old Testament, the time Orti were with Knossians. Earthlings don’t have anything later to tell: Orti don’t crash on Earth.

“Would the After use vibration on Earth, in case?”

No, “vibration” is earthly; “the interference” is from Forever. An earthling nervous system would become unable to communicate, feel no vibration or pain of dying either. But our thing would influence people and planets alike, as we don’t do judgment. God does, in case. Mostly the pragma “watermark” works, so God does not always judge, only if there are reservations, if the person soul tells us there’s something wrong. We trust God, because God’s never been wrong. We keep all results, and we are free to witness and speak every time there is the judgment, and we do not doubt, God knows the nature of the creation. If we interfered, Earth would be gone too.

“Have you ever annihilated a planet?”

No, we’ve never had any such order or command.

“Commanded, you would do it?”

Yes, but it’s only from God this could come.

“Does She judge too?”

She’s never made a mistake, either. It was her to find out a person was misdiagnosed with mental illness and mistreated, so some patterns the watermark detected were forced from environment. The judgment is not anything violent. It’s immersive mind work with the soul. You could fear it only if you’d be trying to cheat. You’re not penetrated or anything; spiritual and intellectual interface, it is. If you like, you can have kind of fingertip touch with Her.

“Is She a goddess?”

No, She’s God, just as He is.

The belief is, you are what you do, or you’re unfit for the verb pragma which is well, pretty much around here. In Xeste there happened one faux pas, in human appreciations of Herself. She was presented for much bigger than an earthly female, miniature earthling that would have had to be. She said, the work is not to be destroyed, and it is never to be repeated (it was in Egypt they made such “fun size” things, in their patterns for exclusion; primitive stuff, I hope you can admit, below). By the way, see her pet owl. Oh, and She doesn’t wear ear rings. It’s earthling imagination for femininity.

Dolphins can live in the After. You’ve never seen a dolphin for real, before the After.

If we live in cradles according to religion or Creator? No. It’s not nationality, and it’s not religion or the Creator, Him or Her. It’s this thing you recognize as individual. You do it on Earth in countries like the USA. The After is like one nationality, only it’s not ethnic. Maybe you’d say it’s not nationality anymore, but then, you’re free to think what you like.

The Gods have three sons and three girls. It’s a different upbringing, if the parents decide to incarnate and beget. It happened in private, a very distant planet, never on Earth. No, none of the names is Hesus. The souls truly took beginning by the parents, but they are free to be their own individuals, and they are. It’s hearsay, but it says both sons and daughters don’t like the story of crucifixion. I never asked them, I didn’t want to cause them displeasure.

Oh, no, in this context, the animal shed looks more of Luxor genuflexion as practiced by Egyptian animals for comfort. God and his wife lived on that other planet in a habitat more modern and easy than people have on Earth now past 2000. You didn’t get any bad weather. Rumor is, people would have celebrated God’s second son at Knossos. It’s also rumor, his first-born was a girl. Look up the natural picture for Her sitting, apron and two rings. The most prominent face looks a girl. It’s not rumor that He loves his wife, and She loves her husband. It’s fact. He’d never leave his children and their mother in low conditions.

We hardly imagine incarnating for anyone, so it’s remarkable to us what Gods did for their love. “Remarkable”, by the way, is a word to note with Aristotle. The Gods begot six children and died a mortal death, to be back in the After, conscious of their mutual commitment. This makes impression on us, but it does not appeal to earthlings: they would crucify a son. And us — nails and blood do not persuade us about Gods — we know it’s not God taste or gusto. Here, you could create a pet soul, but real souls become and grow in biological structures like human. The two begot real souls.

Revelations? No, Orti do not have revelations. They have a box to talk with our After. That box was taken away from Earth upon God’s commendation, because of the developments with the ark. The Jewish were like in a shop they’d rather speak with a male. Creation is authoring, so if She created the cosmos, She deserves the credit, full stop.

Why we don’t do revelations on Earth? A revelation would impose on the brain. We never impede the mind, we’ve got better aspirations. To force an incarnate being is primitive. The body is obviously vulnerable. To persuade a mind is intellectual, and we always have time; in the After, you’re never in a hurry. The Jewish ark was an instrument for destruction, and thus we trust it was not our Gods idea. Our God does not play ping pong. The gravitational rebound is simply nature. Helps survive in the cosmos, if you don’t abuse it.

The Spanish maybe get it different on Earth. I’ve never learned Spanish and the pyramidal cell. Lucky. And honestly, I don’t like Spanish as long as there’s the phrase “pyramidal cell”. “Pyramidal bunkum”, “bollock”, “shenanigans” — that’s quite OK. But brain cells, that’s no architecture for nonsense. Whatever they mean with other words in the language, Spanish.

If She authored Earth? Beautiful landscapes and beautiful physics, She has authored. But souls are entities of their own, in His creation as well as Hers. In short, your character is your responsibility. Neither She nor He ever made you the person you are. Live and let live is the idea, and it’s other than pet souls. Earthlings have computer ideas for personality, they would be like pet souls.

Orti mostly don’t like earthlings. It’s only for God, Him or Her, they’d give anyone a lift in case a planet was collapsing today. They helped Knossians, but about later earthlings, Orti can’t see logic: some earthlings would have baptism, to show they take the blame for some ancient apple, but they don’t take the blame for a crucifixion that terminated, according to earthling belief, the only son of God. Whatever about facts, if such is the earthling belief, such is earthling mentality. And how do you hope to be forgiven that second blame? You sure don’t have a contract with God saying it could be OK to crucify any of his kids.

Contracts are written. Orti say, earthlings would believe in contracts with the so-called devil, whereas there’s no way you could sell your soul, as you cannot separate yourself from it; your soul is you, and you are your soul, so you could be only selling yourself, to come to the so-called Hell for contract fulfilment. And earthling legends wouldn’t have any contracts with God.

Where did the Knossians go? Most chose to go with the Orti and their posterity are Orti now; they do not feel or consider themselves earthling anymore. This is why it’s so difficult to find Knossian traces anywhere on Earth except Knossos, and that looks evacuated. Orti planets are like “Earths’, actually similar.

Yes, they have souls, the same as Orti and earthlings, and come here to the After as Orti, this is who they are. You can think about microtubules in your body for where your soul is.

Microtubule theory
Positive Certainty of Mind, draft image

We mostly say “maybe” or “can be” around here, and the difficulty in describing the After is in the tremendous variety, as people are more creative than on Earth, but this thing is sure, the body is kind of a pod or envelope for the soul. There are only a few things we talk assertively about, otherwise we may play pictures for the Positive Certainty of Mind, as in the fractal here, that is, we joke. In this reality here, most things change; you get used to it. A camel-snail picture for the kind of mind might be most durable… Or, I’m kidding.

Injuries… Cannot disprove a soul. You don’t expect of people to walk with broken legs. Mental limitation to have come with brain injury can show only that, a broken brain. It cannot show there’s no soul. You can compare the microtubule theory, for earthly words. Some healing is possible, with earthly means.

Injured, your body cannot give your soul regular access, but this does not mean your soul stops existing. As long as you live, you have a soul. Plato said you could die, if you properly disconnected from life. That could happen in afterlife; mortal death does not do it; the thing never happened in our cradle, the cessation. Life is good here, and wherever you are, your consciousness originates in you; you’re not a pet soul, created toy.

No, you can’t “fray” or “chop” the soul off, it’s always faster to withdraw. As for some nasty earthling practices to dismember people, the soul never stays in the severed part; also earthlings have noticed that severed, body parts are “lifeless”. How is the soul faster to withdraw, if it does not know a blow or hit would come? Earthlings would expect you have to know, to be fast. The soul has properties to allow its travel to another universe, where you hardly would be right to imagine getting in with space ships. It is the impartible nature of the soul; imagine very, very fast quicksilver. It’s going to keep own shape even if you try to chop it. Of course, souls are not mercury, and we’d be hardly mercurial, in the After. I’d say, the prevalent mood is fancy mellow.

Here in the After, you don’t feel cold, hot, hungry. All feelings to begin with are those non-vegetative, psychological or intellectual percepts you value emotionally. Some earthlings say, they were probably under some RF on Earth, because those “feelings” are gone with the body, all of them. People say, as they notice some feelings being gone, they get new feelings with creativity.

You see, when people are born, there is no other than vegetative emotion. But people learn. Human eyesight is learned re-afference. Hearing is learned recognition, for speech. Homeostatic and bodily balance altogether are learned. People learn to talk, people learn to walk. All this learning is body and soul, and the soul knows the body, but if something just came from the outside, like a “feeling” in quotes, to be body and not soul so much, it goes away with the body.

The brain memory recall before you die…

To tell you the truth, the brain has orienting responses. Dying of course does encourage the brain to “look around”, and the organ does it in the modes it knows, alpha, beta, etc. It’s an old saying, don’t mistake the picture for the one. If you chose to represent EEGs in tiny squares or triangles, you’d have tiny square or triangle pictures for near-death or dying experiences. The soul is neither a sine, nor a triangle. And it’s not square either, of course.

There is no way to infer on the After from mortal matter, and this is what the brain is, mortal matter. The After is non-physical; it is not an antonym or opposite for earthly living; afterlife is life after.

Geometry is more of stylistics, in the After. It’s the physical world to depend on the triangle, so to speak for the shape. On the other hand, you can view triangles as three-point planar angularities of spatial capability, 2 or 3D, for Earth. The problem with a square would be, it does not have the angular flexibility of a triangle. Early Greek teachings brought in the question of the point, on Earth.

It would be sad, to think some flash memories for all your life. The soul does not need to gather from the brain; the soul is yourself, has been and learned with the body, all along. The flash stories are like all your life would have been your swinging or jumping when a kid, another person’s touch for love, and such sensory-kinesthetic stuff. It’s obviously your brain trying to orient about body position. People have knowledge, skill. How do you even squeeze it all in a flash of about 60 seconds? However nice it could be to remember touch, you can have interaction in the After, and well, I’m not going to spend time with you, as long as the time remains perceived, crying over your having died. It’s generally not practiced. If your choices were right, for your family and social life on Earth, you’re going to meet them all here. We don’t require too much, and we are the best cradle.

Our name is Nouma. If you compare the Greek onoma, we’re a “new name”. We’re not a moon. You’re free to choose your name here. You don’t have to stay by the given name, though you can, if you want to. We can move about just as in Heaven, next door. Maybe you’d say it’s a verb capacity, but we move about the same way as those who stay in Heaven most of the time. People in Heaven also happen to go travel and visit, and they have names.

We’ve heard about some earthly ado about dividing words for print; that you shouldn’t divide Almighty and such. But then, do you divide language, nationality, and other? There would be three ways to divide Nouma, No-uma, Nou-ma, and Noum-a, but the third would be a bit awkward, I mean visually, so probably the first two can work. However you divide the word, it does not divide the cradle of course. And if you never divide words for print or writing possibly too sometimes, you end up with a whole lot of pseudo-blank on the page, so it’s better to be common sense and divide syllabically.

Language is not partible matter. It is changeable, but it is part with the impartible. Eternal, in short. You can tear a printout to pieces. You cannot tear language to bits. The error in earthling attitude to language comes probably with viewing it for visible matter. But then, just to follow suit, you must be visible matter too, as an earthling. Is this of no consequence in the After, you believe?

Dead languages? Some people around here still speak those. Heaven has a library on all.

By the way, technologies earthlings have to try virtual experience, the tech googles, can injure the fundus of the eye. But still, earthlings promote it, to earn earthly cash. The other people say it’s the bad in the character they don’t like earthlings for. Earthlings are intra-species aggressive.

And for clairvoyance…. The simple point is, if someone anesthetized your bottom, or ass, to talk the language of everyday as well, would you know what there’s going on, without looking?

The other people say English was on Earth when the Bible was being written; these are Old English words, “offspring” and “apple”, the latter to be in other words “fruit of a season”. Phonemically coincidence? — they doubt — the Greek ἁπλόος, aploos, told about biblia: they were rolls written by individual authors; an “apple bible” would probably be a book to take pattern after an individual author. “Void” they do find at the beginning of Aristotle’s Physics. Elsewhere, some matter would look other chapters.

They compare circumstances, to think about earthlings: on Earth, there’s penalty for offense, verbal or physical; but earthlings keep all that odd matter about God and hold it high. The other people don’t understand.

“Do they speak English?” Yes, and many other languages. They live as people of the planet, though. They’re not divided into ethnicities or nationalities.

“Do they have a name, as earthlings is for people of Earth?”

I’m not sure if that would be after the name of the planet, but very long ago, an earthling kid named them Orti, and they smiled, the legend is. The day was only beginning.

“Where are they from?”

I’m not allowed to tell you; wouldn’t be The Orion Conspiracy exactly.

Why the other people would fly by… Honestly, theory is, to have a look at the civilization to have developed a story of the only son of God to have been offered offspring-for-fruit-of-season, and that told in an “apple bible”. Printemps would have been in French, another conceptual fresco they find in Knossos, Blue-Red-Yellow palette and growing greens. Darwin had later a similar, developmental idea, but he did not include visible light in any picture. Someone tried later to add on a bit to the fresco, which behavior they do not offer to verbalize on.

They like intelligent humans; they liked the fellas at Knossos. It would be misunderstanding, to put monarchy in the picture, however. When you know about the After, you know you don’t have to work after you die, because you can create; but you also know it is after you die, that you get into the After. Monarchy does not render the After well, because it uses work by another, to promote one. The Orti liked Knossians simply as people. Though less advanced, the ancient earthlings were willing to learn, intelligent, and well, didn’t base it all on sexuality, as modern Earth happens to do. Those were ancient Greeks to come up with ideas on democracy.

Those ideas must have been later forbidden by other earthlings, for even the New Testament talks riddles about politics. The kingdom as by the book would have had mustard bushes of the sort that grew in deserts and had birds nesting, whereas nomads never had monarchies. Except the persica, mustard is like a garden flower no bird could sit. For vineyards where the first could be last and the last could be first, your government cannot be monarchy, because the king or queen alternate title has been “the first among the equal”, always first. The Latin existed already at the time the book was written, primus inter pares, or prima, for a queen.

Very generally, the Knossos idea for a color palette could be seen on the right. Colors change over time, with natural pigments. The plants are not mustard.

Fresque du printemps, Akrotiri, Grèce, Wikimedia

There was plenty of time, to make observations on the jolly shine in the ancient Hellada. Here too, an idea could be easier to see on the right, Minoan krateras.

To compare the four elements, or actually the four elementary forms, and the teardrop idea for nuclear fission, you could take a bet: the ancient Hellens knew more than their advancement would have allowed according to history, or olive and fish oils must be mighty good for brains. I know from people, at schools on Earth they might even show you lasers to talk light wavelengths and sinusoids, but there’s never been anyone from modern Europe with a story from an olive garden and a sinusoid, light wavelength, I mean. Difficult to see.

“I like to move it”, says Betty casually to paraphrase the beginning of Metaphysics, and he likes bets. You can read sinusoidal wavelengths mostly in Latin alphabet on Earth, but he likes Greek as well: God’s oeconomy is his favorite pursuit, and he admires the idea to have made room for standard uncertainty. Nobody ever needed to die for today, yesterday, or for tomorrow, and human soul is the human mind.

If you could speak for Earth from here? You will be heard, if you know something more than we do, about earthlings and the way the planet has been managed, and in favor of course, as we couldn’t need more criticism, climate change alone. Come on in, you can learn a lot.

How it always begins here, everyone wants to reach out with the mind; to have the inner causation to see, as otherwise you can’t notice, you look at your surroundings like at a language you don’t know. Most people are a bit like children, just happy with new senses. In the beginning, everything is very vivid and live, if you compare Earth. Then you get used to the live color, and you enjoy it.

On Earth, you were a seeing and living “dork” — let me explain. The beginning of Aristotle’s Metaphysics, the oregontai is not derkomai, for seeing and living in a physical universe; dedorkos was already ancient for someone to have eyesight; skotos dedorkos meant someone blind, in the physical world. Franklin, Paine or Emily Dickinson by the way, in a different sense, but they tried to “reach out with their minds” on Earth already, interpreting Aristotle. They had some good translation, maybe kept secret, owing to the beaming business. Their conclusion remained one God, no particular earthly religion. One God created the cosmos there’s Earth. Here, in the After, you can actually reach out with your mind and see; I’ll tell you a bit more later.

About the beaming business, we think it is better when people know. Otherwise, you could see a fella with a big piece of glass and leave it, whereas it might be good to tell him or her not to try. Anyway, it is impossible to control information absolutely, and who would you trust? Last time on Earth, Egyptians built a regime. Orti would shoot you down, for working a lens like the ancient Egyptian. Such are totally forbidden. No government agency either, to be allowed those. There are other ways to work stone.

{I’ve been just at chapter 5 of Taylor; for the story proper, I’d be taking inspiration from Aristotle’s Metaphysics, the Book After the Physics, just at the beginning now, and the two characters have only entered the haven, Chatty and the soldier of “die Luft” — Wáffe is grammatically feminine gender in German; “all aircraft sported—and continue to sport—the Iron Cross on the fuselage, harking back to the pre-March 1918 days of World War I, while the national flag of West Germany is displayed on the tail, says Wikipedia.

On the Soul is in my reading list too}.

I intend for my story to end with a picture on the beginning of the world. My theme of choice comes from Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, where the author says:
Every history of the creation, and every traditionary account, whether from the lettered or unlettered world, however they may vary in their opinion or belief of certain particulars, all agree in establishing one point, the unity of man; by which I mean that men are all of one degree, and consequently that all men are born equal, and with equal natural right, in the same manner as if posterity had been continued by creation instead of generation, the latter being the only mode by which the former is carried forward; and consequently every child born into the world must be considered as deriving its existence from God. The world is as new to him or her, as it was to the first human being that existed, and his or her natural right in it is of the same kind. — Thomas Paine used the grammatical forms of his time, but himself in the same work he emphasized, the act of creation did not hold women for inferior:
The Mosaic account of the creation, whether taken as divine authority or merely historical, is full to this point the unity or equality of man. The expression admits of no controversy. “And God said, Let us make man in our own image. In the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” The distinction of sexes is pointed out, but no other distinction is even implied. If this be not divine authority, it is at least historical authority, and shews that the equality of man, so far from being a modern doctrine, is the oldest upon record (hence Gods, He and She in my story).